MGTOWIs it possible to be atheist and MGTOW? – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 17:51:20 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/page/458/#post-16504 <![CDATA[Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/page/458/#post-16504 Thu, 22 Jan 2015 23:24:54 +0000 John Doe We had a previous and ongoing thread about Christianity and MGTOW which is interesting.  To be fair and open minded I figured I would ask my atheist friends this:

Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?

From my personal observation in many aspects it isn’t.  According to atheism “this is it” and in that aspect all things are material in one way or another.  This includes the brain and all thoughts and impulses attributed to it.  If this is the case than one’s view of “personal sovereignty” is directly caused and affected by particles more or less.  This in turn leaves the “particle” to be the sole decider and not the individual himself.  However, for those of you who will state “some particles are different than others thereby superior” would still be submitting to the will of the “particle” or “dark matter.”

Debate. (I would be more offended if people did not get offended, so please no holds bar.  However, this is a debate among friends, so no one is better than the other at the end of it.).

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16732 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16732 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:43:56 +0000 UKMgtow I guess it depends  on how you define atheism, I’m sure many do so in different ways but I think by definition it is a belief in a lack of god or deities. In that sense, it’s perfectly doable to be an athiest and a MGTOW, in fact I think it’s the prime theological belief system to do so as it is the idea that we are not the product of creation but rather a highly evolved species, capable of free thought and free will; able to make decisions based on knowledge, morals and personal belief, rather than following religious texts or expectations. Once exposed to MGTOW, we gain knowledge about women, gender interaction and society that is contrary to what we previously believed,  and rather than keeping with an philosophy because it was what we know we are able to adapt accordingly.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16735 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16735 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 14:37:57 +0000 John Doe Welcome to the forums UKMGTOW.

However you did not answer my question.  No God/gods/dieties fair enough of a definition, but it still leaves my point.

According to atheism “this is it” and in that aspect all things are material in one way or another.  This includes the brain and all thoughts and impulses attributed to it.  If this is the case than one’s view of “personal sovereignty” is directly caused and affected by particles more or less.  This in turn leaves the “particle” to be the sole decider and not the individual himself.  However, for those of you who will state “some particles are different than others thereby superior” would still be submitting to the will of the “particle” or “dark matter.”

You cannot be an MGHOW without free will.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16756 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16756 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:07:46 +0000 John Doe I am really disappointed in the lack of discussion in this topic.

I could barely get even an imaginative response which really makes me questions Atheism even more.  For all the “glory” atheists claim the imaginative mind brings, it really seems that atheism is a deathblow to the logical mind’s ability to create anything or any thought of real substantial value or meaning.

Question Christianity and everyone gets upset, question Atheism and I barely get a response.  I guess even “evil” proves the existence of God.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16759 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16759 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:17:11 +0000 In my opinion, the world would be a far better place without the concept of Religion or lack of Religion. If you look back through the history of the human race, pretty much every single negative event was caused by someone’s belief or lack or belief in a higher power(s).

Personally as atheism/religion has no impact on my life, I simply do not care. 🙂

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16761 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16761 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:22:50 +0000 John Doe Finally some discussion. I was becoming real disappointed for a second.

Apparently it affected you enough to share your beliefs, to study history, and develop a personal philosophy.

If you look back through the history of the human race, pretty much every single negative event was caused by someone’s belief or lack or belief in a higher power(s).

You are part of history my friend, just as I am.  You just stated in this line that in some way shape or form you were effected.

Personally as atheism/religion has no impact on my life, I simply do not care.

Now you state it does not affect you.  Make up your mind.  I don’t understand what you are saying, and I don’t think you do either.

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16767 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16767 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:56:02 +0000 Here my thoughts… I’ll not let anything confine my thinking (boxed in). All boxes have an inside, and an outside, I chose outside, and still have the freedom to look inside. Whereas from the inside, that’s all you know……

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16768 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16768 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:57:57 +0000 John Doe To acknowledge a box still limits one’s thinking to the box, putting us essentially back in the box.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16769 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16769 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:03:12 +0000 John Doe Atheism and Agnosticism are intellectual fads.  Islam and Judaism will wipe themselves out eventually.  Leaving us with a very weak Christianity and possible “new” religion to come to the surface once people tire of Atheism and Agnosticism.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16770 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it possible to be atheist and MGTOW?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-possible-to-be-atheist-and-mgtow/#post-16770 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:04:39 +0000 To acknowledge a box exists, strikes ones curiosity as to what’s outside the box, and when one journeys there, finds himself in yet another larger box…With questions come answers, and with answers come questions……………………

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