MGTOWIs it healthy to stay focused on this stuff? – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 09:35:01 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/page/485/#post-10302 <![CDATA[Is it healthy to stay focused on this stuff?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/page/485/#post-10302 Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:53:03 +0000 coolsideofthepillow Hey guys,I have been a MGTOW for almost a decade now. I stay away from relationships and never plan on getting married. Unlike many other MGTOW dont even desire to have one night stands or any kind of sexual interaction with women. I never knew about MGTOW as a group though until about 2 weeks ago. since then I have been amazed and enlightened at the amount of great information all of you guys have brought to the table and it has solidified the beliefs I’ve always had even further. In my time of watching countless videos and non stop hours of of studying the facts that MGTOW from around the world have put together I have found myself in a darker place than I was a few weeks ago. I understand its very important that men know these facts about the reality were all faced with but my question is should we continue to stay focused on this stuff so much once we realize the truth?? Since finding MGTOW none of my life habits have changed as far as women are concerned because they have already been removed from my life, but now I find myself focusing on women much more than I have in years!! its like the bad behavior of women is effecting my mental state and keeping me from focusing on things that are way more important in my life even when there aren’t any women in my life! So my question to you guys is when does the study of the male/female relationship become just as much of a hinderance to getting things done in your life than actually being in a relationship? I find that when I read and study tons of stuff where women screw over men I am having some of the same emotions pop up as if it were actually happening to me! and Ive worked hard to completely remove these emotions from my life and don’t want them being brought back up in any way shape or form. So when do you think the discussions and topics MGTOW focus so much attention on hurt you instead of help you? Is there a point where people should consider cutting themselves off from these types of discussions and get on with going there own way?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10305 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it healthy to stay focused on this stuff?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10305 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 02:28:25 +0000 Stargazer I’ve heard research suggesting that support groups wherein individuals share their negative experiences can be beneficial for internalizing and processing those experiences as well as learning new skills to move forward and avoid future negative experiences. I like that aspect of the MGTOW community.

I’ve also heard research suggesting that excessive dwelling on negative experiences underscores the pain of those experiences and can prevent people from moving past the negative experiences into a more positive future. I think there is a real chance of this happening within a message board like this one as well.

So it’s up to us individually to decide whether we’re in a state where we need to share our experiences as part of the process of accepting them and letting them go or whether we’re just wallowing in self pity and anger. That’s an awareness that each of us needs to come to for ourselves.

Having said all that, I think it’s unrealistic to suggest that we’re going to suddenly not care about females any more and never mention them again. I personally don’t think that’s a particularly healthy or sustainable position, regardless of your personal mindset or experiences. So I’m all for ongoing discussions of females and their actions and ideals, as well as discussions about cars, sports, politics, cooking, art and everything else that’s of interest to men.

If mgtow.com becomes all about female bashing and pickup techniques, those of us who see the broader picture will drift off… so it’s up to each of us to post meaningful content and if a thread gets too bitter and angry, just let it die and the community will police itself.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10308 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it healthy to stay focused on this stuff?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10308 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 02:55:54 +0000 coolsideofthepillow I would say that it honestly is possible to not care about females and never bring it up. Probably not for most people that have already had there life severely altered by them in divorces and having kids, but there are those of us that saw this coming from a early age and avoided all the major pitfalls other than a few failed relationships. I am a MGTOW “ghost” meaning I have pretty much removed myself from society and never really see women at all except for my mom and grandmother that I have a good relationship with.I am also a christian that strictly follows what the book says so that means I don’t spend time fantisizing and masturbating either…I think that’s a big key to completely removing women from your mind…you cant completely get rid of something if you mentally toy with it everyday by masturbating. Its a really hard one to get out of your life but if you choose to take it that far you would be amazed at how good it works. That’s why I find for me this stuff has been helpful in that it has shown me new facts but it has also been hurtful because it has drawn me mentally back into a world I’ve already escaped from….If you really want women completely gone from your life you have to make sure none of your thoughts ever get on the subject…its like rewiring your brain. When you stay focused on topics that deal with women its impossible to ever do that…I know I am definitely extreme and this doesn’t apply to most MGTOW but I just wanted to put it out there in case there’s anyone out there like me.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10310 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it healthy to stay focused on this stuff?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10310 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 02:57:48 +0000 AFT I’ve had the same thought, and it was pointed out to me that the forum is helpful for newly red pilled men rather than someone like yourself almost a decade in red pill reality.  It does beg the question, for me at least, where to go for support in terms of a more positive red pilled MGHOW life strategies advice etc.  But I think MGTOW is based on individuality and each to their own.

I’m just starting so it is still a big adjustment, but it is definitely worth the while.  Already feeling more at peace standing up for myself and rejecting the blue pill.  MGTOW sort of equates to non conformist so to list a bunch of philosophies to conform to would be hypocritical.  I get where you are coming from, I suppose reality is a negative place, and feeling down about it is natural.

Wish I had you’re commitment to be able to cut all women out for 10 years, what tips do you have?

I’m focusing on career work money, but still need some hobby interest to take my mind off things at home.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10311 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it healthy to stay focused on this stuff?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10311 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:12:55 +0000 coolsideofthepillow Well it wasn’t always easy for me and the first few years I definitely wanted to find a NEWALT. I just kind of had the perfect circumstances to do what Ive done, I can definitely see why a lot of people arent able to do it and I consider myself very lucky. As for hobbies I do alot of outdoor stuff, I am really into survivalism and practice all kinds of outdoor skills. I have animals and that gives me a lot of companionship. I spend a lot of time studying topics that interest me. I am also a artist and I do bodywork/paint cars and do a lot of wood working, I also work out a lot. You will spend a lot of time bored out of your mind on the brink of insanity for awhile, Im not going to lie lol, but eventually you just keep on finding things that you like to fill your day up and you’ll have tons of things to do after a few years. Its sucks starting out with a blank slate, but if you are strict on yourself and have a lot of self discipline you can avoid all the things in life you need to avoid and you will naturally fill your life up with things you like.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10318 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it healthy to stay focused on this stuff?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10318 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 04:12:16 +0000 Stargazer

I would say that it honestly is possible to not care about females and never bring it up. Probably not for most people that have already had there life severely altered by them in divorces and having kids, but there are those of us that saw this coming from a early age and avoided all the major pitfalls other than a few failed relationships.

For context, I am 46, never married, no children, self-employed since the age of 18, got a vasectomy at 30 and have had sex with hundreds of different females. So when you talk about seeing this coming and avoiding the major pitfalls, I think I’ve managed that part pretty well. What makes us different, perhaps, is our sex drives. I’m not avoiding female bulls~~~ out of pain but out of a desire to keep my mind clear and focused on my own happiness… part of which is having sex with beautiful females. Your experience is clearly different but I have no interest in avoiding females.

Having said that, I don’t think even a level 4 MGTOW ghost could possibly not care about females and never bring them up unless they literally avoided interaction with females entirely, or deleted the outcomes of those interactions from their memory after the fact. But here’s my point… total avoidance is itself a form of attachment. Show me a man who has zero interaction with and absolutely nothing to say about females and I’ll show you a man who is spending a LOT of time and effort trying to avoid them.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10323 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it healthy to stay focused on this stuff?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10323 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 04:55:33 +0000 нσтησσв Everything in moderation 😛

I come to this MGTOW forum to learn, help, and support MGTOW in general – and sometimes vent a bit 😛 i spend on average maybe 30 minutes a day thinking / talking / writing about this stuff, the rest of the time i’m focused on making money / starting up my new business, playing video games, or chillaxin \w friends & family.

When i first came around to MGTOW, i really needed to vent, was quite focused on women / mgtow, but after i found the answers that i needed, things started to settle down.

I suspect your in a near by boat; just give it some time, find your answers, create your own MGTOW view, and lastly live life the way that you want to.
You may want to have nothing to do \w MGTOW, you may just want to obsesses over it 24/7, or you may just decide to lurk on the forums every once in a while to show your support and to learn something new 🙂

Becoming MGTOW is sort of similar to the 5 stages of grieving 😛 After all, we all lost our belief, hopes and trust in women 😛

My Goal: To Leave Society.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10325 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it healthy to stay focused on this stuff?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10325 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 04:58:38 +0000 Dybbuk It may seem unhealthy, because the people who talk the most on forums are usually the ones with the biggest ax to grind or who are most fanatical (i.e. “can’t change their mind and won’t change the subject”). But that’s true of most interest groups. The internet chatter never comes from a representative cross section of the group, which has the potential to make valid interests seem pathological.

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10351 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it healthy to stay focused on this stuff?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10351 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:52:53 +0000 In Which We Serve This is something I’ve been thinking about as I’m very into positive thinking (old school stuff like Orison Swett Marden, Samuel Smiles and Dale Carnegie). A lot of MGTOW stuff is very negative and angry about women and relationships. Now that’s understandable, as anger is a part of the waking up process from blue-pill thinking, but in the long term, it’s not good to wallow in negativity because you end up bitter and get into confirmation biased and stereotyped thinking.

One thing I find useful is to read self help/positive thinking books which are old, from before the modern obsession with romantic relationships as the solution to all ills. The Victorians, I think, had a more realistic (not necessarily healthy, though) attitude to marriage etc. They knew ‘self fulfillment’ doesn’t come from a relationship with a woman, it comes from self-knowledge, and a relationship with God (as you understand Him) or, if you don’t like religion, a belief in a higher philosophical power.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10366 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it healthy to stay focused on this stuff?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-iit-healthy-to-stay-focused-on-this-stuff/#post-10366 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:06:54 +0000 Deus Ex Machina

I come to this MGTOW forum to learn, help, and support MGTOW in general – and sometimes vent a bit :P i spend on average maybe 30 minutes a day thinking / talking / writing about this stuff, the rest of the time i’m focused on making money / starting up my new business, playing video games, or chillaxin \w friends & family.

 

Took the words right outta My Mouth Bud. It’s important to have an active personal life, both mentally and physically.  I do Ocean activity, motorcycle riding, hiking as well as Carpentry,  having fun and enjoying life, reading tons of books, Listening to old Vinyl, traveling to new places. If I didn’t, I’d go nuts – Take it from Me Bro, Women will drive you nuts no matter what.

Which is why it’s important not to let it bother you.

 

I come here because I want to help the next guy. Everyone of these guys have something to offer, as well as a great personal story, or experience.  This place, is also operated by a pretty solid dude, that dude is Keymaster. Not to brag, but the knowledge that Guy drops is pretty damn amazing in My opinion, and useful – Which is why I enjoy this site, it’s operated the right way.

I’ve been to other MGTOW forums, which are good in their own right. But here, I notice Men share a lot more about some deep, VERY deep personal experiences as well as past relationships. I was in an abusive Marriage, I was stabbed with scissors and a knife on separate occasions, I was punched repeatedly once while sleeping, not only that but $20,000+ was stolen from my personal bank account (money I worked My ass off for), given to My Wife’s Lover, yeah talk about never trusting Women again.

 

I couldn’t tell My Family or My Friends, could they understand?, No they couldn’t. Why not?, because they’ve never been through it, they don’t know what it’s like to be with a complete nut case. A vast majority of my Male friends have been alienated from Me by their Wives because I’m a “Threat”, (an actual quote told to Me by a long time friend, from His wife), not only that but I was told:

“And you’re not allowed to speak to My Husband ever again“.

 

Why?, the Married Female sees us as a negative influence over their slave (Husband), Married Females HATE us with a passion – Seeing us free, no women, no kids, just living FOR US!.
I see My Married buddies working a job they hate, stressed out beyond belief, pleasing a Wife who doesn’t give two s~~~s and will probably end up cheating, getting Vaginamony, and their Kids being raised by some asshole step-father.

 

You have Faith in Christianity, that’s good Bro. Stay close to the good Book, read it, study it. Survival skills?, that’s fricken awesome dude!, useful as well!. Animals are more loyal then Women, believe me.  It boils down to what makes YOU happy. MGTOW is about going deep within oneself, pulling out the strengths and killing the weaknesses.  I know that sounds kinda Zen like, But it’s true. Since I’ve been here hashing things out?, I feel great because it was boiling inside of Me for a very long time. I don’t have to pay a therapist an ungodly amount of money, and told to take pills I don’t need to treat “Depression”. All I need is Red Pill.

I wish you the best, Bud. Stay strong and focused.

 

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

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