As I read through the intro to this site I was stunned to see that it read, nearly word for word, like the life I have led until very recently.  It’s like you guys knew me already.  A friend told me about the MGTOW movement and I did a little research on the matter.  It seem to be hand and glove for me, so far.

My first wife gave me 2 beautiful daughters whom I love and am involved with every day.  They currently live with her, but here is a little story:
After our divorce I took custody of our children.  At the time my oldest was 4 and the youngest 10 months.  I started the process of being a single full-time father then and there.  Shortly after I met my second wife and as we became a couple she helped with my daughters.  Years later after that, too, failed I continued the care of my kids.  As they got older (about a year ago) I asked their mother to step in and help as there were “girl things” that a mom should be involved in.  This resulted in my allowing my daughters to live with her full-time.  “It was for the best interest of the kids.”  Mind you, she never was required nor did she pay me any form of child support whatsoever.  Loe and behold 4 months after they moved in with her, I was served with papers.  I will be paying a ridiculous amount of child support as I live in TX and make over 80k.

I only give this brief story as an example of how I feel this is a good fit for me.  I did not know that there was an active group or manosphere that brings like-minded men together.  I’m glad I found it.  I look forward to learning from and with you guys and hopefully becoming a better man for it.

The pleasure is mine already,
Danny

Still, you got sole custody for what sounds like many years, and in doing so you have certainly avoided the child support you would have been paying her during that time (for kids you would have been lucky to be allowed to visit). The child support that remains is only until they are 18(?). Around here, this is an achievement to be envied.

Of course we know you already. You’re one of us. We’ve all been targets of the same mindset that saturates essentially all female culture these days. There is enormous value in the site in the insights and experiences of others who have been where you’ve been and seen what you’ve seen. One of the most interesting things about this site, at least to me, is how consistent the experience of men is, even though the posts you’ll read here come from men of many different cultures all around the world.

I hope you’ll post some of what you saw/learned in the different places you’ve been.

Welcome to mgtow

I can feel your pain. You were the good guy, made the right decisions (as I see it) and were roasted anyways. The courts just do not have any empathy for men it seems. A while back I read a story were a guy from Ontario fled to the Philippines after she went back to the courts and got MORE from the settlement. This is a very large reason MGTOW are a growing number.

I would bet 1700 dollars that the month following your youngest daughter’s 18th birthday, your ex will call you demanding to know where the hell her check is. You’ll have to explain to her that child support only lasts as long as you have a child. You laugh at the idea of this now, but I know several men that have had that exact conversation when their child turned 18. Women really are that short sighted, and they really are that self-entitled.

One of those men told me that his wife financed a car for herself about a year before child support ran out…on a 5 year loan. That story ended with a repo man in a tow truck…

A divorce is between A man and a woman. Insist the state butt out. No CS was ordered Originally. I would never agree to any of this. I would not sign nor consent. A contract must have the participants agreement to be valid. If they told me I must sign. I would sign my name then clearly print:     Under Duress ucc 1-207 without prejudice.  No contract signed Under Duress is valid. Ask what crime you have committed and when was the trial as  you must have missed them giving you due process. Any dispute over $20 you have the right to a jury trial. Court ordered CS is usually funded and paid through the state. This makes CS public use of those funds. I refused for 13 years to pay through the state.  This is in the 5th amendment:     nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. I was finally asked to show cause why I should not be charged with Indirect contempt for failure to pay CS. I represented myself no lawyer. The result was case dismissed for good cause. The court system hates pro-Se litigants especially ones who would ask why are you ignoring the constitution while steeling my private property.

There is many ways to attack this. You may choose not to fight at all, or insist it’s a done deal. I  say go your own way and enjoy the outcome.

The deck is stacked. I just look at the financial loss as happiness payments.

Ed