MGTOW"Idiocracy" – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 13:59:43 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/page/209/#post-96280 <![CDATA["Idiocracy"]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/page/209/#post-96280 Sat, 08 Aug 2015 07:30:20 +0000 truckercapjim I’m curious to know the mgtow approach to dealing with the issue of procreation for the sole purpose of combating the deluge of “idiots” resulting from babies having babies by having planned, healthy parenthoods of our own.  I’m fairly new to the mgtow community, but my understanding is that, for the most part, mgtows are (individually, of course) against, or AT LEAST very wary of relationships with women. I understand and agree with most, if not all of the cited reasons as to why, too.  However, as I go through life and encounter idiots and stupid f~~~ing policies and rules and f~~~ed up societal norms, I can’t help but to be reminded of the premise of the movie, “Idiocracy.”   The premise being that in the future, the population of the world, and it’s very existence, is threatened by the stupidity of it’s inhabitants. Said inhabitants are so stupid because the idiots reproduced at a far greater rate than the more intelligent people (because that’s what idiots do) causing the mean human IQ to fall unsustainably low.

Now, I know it’s just a movie, but my question is this:   Is it wrong to want to procreate in the hopes that you can add a little more intelligence to the gene pool and dilute, however so slightly, the idiocy?  If so, why?  If not, how does one go about doing so without falling victim to the typical pitfalls of our gynocentric culture?    I am aware of my implication of my own “intelligence” and understand that I may very well be one of those “idiots,” but let’s just assume that my genes would actually be worth passing on for the sake of the argument, please.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96281 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Idiocracy"]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96281 Sat, 08 Aug 2015 07:38:52 +0000 ILiveAgain Well a clever guy can fk a clever girl … and maybe have a clever kid.

However, that clever kid then goes through ‘the system’ of femanisation and that’s where the clever kid become a clever radical …. that makes things such gender studies.

It is the intelligent top level that is creating the idiocracy because that’s how they maintain control.

They will be ‘programmed’ according to need.

You firing your intelligent sperm up a vagina won’t help much and may see you without your kid and paying for its program.

Let it burn.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96303 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Idiocracy"]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96303 Sat, 08 Aug 2015 08:32:20 +0000 RoyDal I’m not willing to father babies to save somebody else’s system. It would not work anyway. All the signs of decay and eventual collapse are in place. Say goodbye to the system.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96309 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Idiocracy"]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96309 Sat, 08 Aug 2015 08:51:18 +0000 chir

Well a clever guy can fk a clever girl … and maybe have a clever kid. However, that clever kid then goes through ‘the system’ of femanisation and that’s where the clever kid become a clever radical …. that makes things such gender studies. It is the intelligent top level that is creating the idiocracy because that’s how they maintain control. They will be ‘programmed’ according to need. You firing your intelligent sperm up a vagina won’t help much and may see you without your kid and paying for its program. Let it burn.

Clever guy and clever gal have a clever daughter…  after proper indoctrination by the feminist controlled school system the result is always the same.

 

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96336 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Idiocracy"]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96336 Sat, 08 Aug 2015 09:50:58 +0000 Ned Trent

I’m not willing to father babies to save somebody else’s system. It would not work anyway. All the signs of decay and eventual collapse are in place. Say goodbye to the system.

Very well said RoyDal, I couldn’t agree more.

And that be I as intelligent as I may or may seem …    … I still could hardly care less.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96387 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Idiocracy"]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96387 Sat, 08 Aug 2015 11:57:23 +0000 Untamed I’ve done my bit for King and Country. My children are smart and beautiful and their best characteristics come from me. YES, I can say it out loud and be proud. My oldest girl is a HVAC-certified National Guard and studying to be a lawyer. She’s the feminine side of myself and so damn logical, too.
My second girl is a veterinarian. She cares about the animal kingdom, single and wishes to stay it, not interested in having babies or hitching up a sucker to pay her bills. She draws and paints better than I can and I’m the one who taught her!
My third is a boy. He’s in high-school band, competes in motorcycle stunts and soon in ROTC. He’s the best Human Being I’ve ever met. When he speaks I listen. The extant of my advises to him go only as far as warning him about weemins. He’s got the rest down pat.

After having those three wonderful kids I decided to get a vasectomy as I never wanted to give another weemin a child after having my own kids torn away from me. I thought “why make a kid when it turns out he/she ultimately isn’t yours to keep?” Best decision I made in my whole life. Now I can have my cake and eat it, too!

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96518 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Idiocracy"]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96518 Sat, 08 Aug 2015 17:11:26 +0000 truckercapjim @iliveagain, RoyDal, chir, & Ned Trent:  Is it your contention then, that the reason not to have kids is because the system is f~~~ed?  And would that imply that if the system WERE NOT f~~~ed, it would be ok to have kids?  If so, why?

Another thing, now that I’ve read these responses, I’m curious. Do any of you have any kids?  I’ll bet it’s a lot easier for an man with kids to tell a man without kids not to have any. With the whole, “Trust me. I know” thing.   But that’s kinda like the bear telling the yeti not to get on the arc because, “it’s just gonna sink anyway…”

After having those three wonderful kids I decided to get a vasectomy as I never wanted to give another weemin a child after having my own kids torn away from me. I thought “why make a kid when it turns out he/she ultimately isn’t yours to keep?”

@untamed:  Similar question.  So IF the laws and the system were different, and your offspring were actually yours to share with the mother, would it be worth it to have children?  So you admittedly have children. Looking back, seeing how you were mistreated by the system and how your children were indoctrinated (remember, we were all indoctrinated too, but now WE’RE HERE), do you regret having children?  If you could go back, would you not nut up inside their mother?

Another query: Are MRAs MGTOW?  Or is the very idea of fighting to cure a diseased gynocentric system an implication of gynocentric values?

It seems the majority of mgtow are completely content with “letting it burn,”  am I right?  Am I to understand that the only thing important to a mgtow is himself?

For me, these are complicated issues that I am still struggling to deal with in my personal life. I am only here to gather information and gain understanding.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96527 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Idiocracy"]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96527 Sat, 08 Aug 2015 17:50:51 +0000 ILiveAgain You’re not going to have kids …. she is ….. they’re HERS and funnily enough … not YOURS ….. legally NOT YOURS.

So she can keep them, give them away or just outright kill them … and ….. ready …. LEGALLY….. they’ll fking pay for it …… with your taxs.

Also legally you are nothing but a fking walking wallet.

I got custody of my girl when she was 5 …. and totally f~~~ed up.

She’s 20 now and doing just fine.

Would I do it again …. NEVER.

Would I have had her … NEVER.

Do I love her ….. with my last fking breath. The only woman I will ever love.

Would I go back and have a vasectomy …. yes.

If all that sounds fked up ….. we’ll that’s because it is. That’s the rules I’ve learned they play by.

It not my sort of game.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96619 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Idiocracy"]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96619 Sat, 08 Aug 2015 21:12:59 +0000 truckercapjim I think I understand your point. However, I am exploring the hypothetical that IF your child WAS YOURS, and IF you WEREN’T legally just a wallet, and IF she COULD NOT keep them, give them away, etc. at her own will, and IF the game WASN’T rigged against you, THEN would it still be a bad idea or somehow ill advised to have children and raise them with the mother IF she behaved?  IF.  I am fully aware that these IFs are not the actual case currently, thanks to the wealth of information/anecdotes on this website, as well as many others.  I posted this inquiry in the philosophy forums because I understand that this is merely a hypothetical. A thought-experiment.

And again, I pose these questions seriously:
Are MRAs MGTOW?  Or is the very idea of fighting to cure a diseased gynocentric system an implication of gynocentric values?

It seems the majority of mgtow are completely content with “letting it burn,”  am I right?  Am I to understand that the only thing important to a mgtow is himself? Or is it just the first on a long list of interests on which community or family might also fall?

Thank you for your responses. Again, I’m only attempting to gain knowledge here, as I am new to mgtow and not a father.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96635 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Idiocracy"]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/idiocracy/#post-96635 Sat, 08 Aug 2015 21:34:58 +0000 ILiveAgain I’m going to help guide you coz you’re new ☺

1. Read more in the archive. You just won’t believe how many answers are there.

2. You are on thin ice with the ‘if’ this were like that and ‘if’ they were different and unicorn … nawalt … blue squirrel etc.

That ain’t gonna go down well because the answer will be … if I could s~~~ gold … but I can’t.

Keep to the here and now … reality … facts as they are …. because that’s what we are living in.

If things were different … fk yes … I would …. lovely smashing super.

‘If’ that day comes I’ll be right beside you ‘if’ I’m not dead …… which I will be ?

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