MGTOWI think we should stop identifying PUA-types as red-pilled – MGTOW

I think we should stop identifying PUA-types as red-pilled

Guts MGTOW — Sun, 26 Jul 2015 16:38:29 +0000

If they were really red-pilled on women they wouldn’t spend so much time trying to obtain them. They are purple-pilled at best, not red-pilled.

Have you ever actually spoken to a PUA-type about a topic other than women? I have and mostly they had blue-pilled opinions on everything else.

MGTOW is about everything but PUA is 100% about women.

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tofu916 — Sun, 26 Jul 2015 17:36:22 +0000

An interesting point. I have always wondered why they were included in red pilled discussions at all, but you are not alone in your opinion. I have heard many bloggers talk down upon PUA for the same reasons. They are all about obtaining women.

But they have perfected the formula for getting what they want out of women and disappearing. Sure, they are flying too close to the flame (in terms of living a true red-pill lifestyle), but mastering the art of manipulating women and bending them to your will….is that purple pilled? I think they are still red-pillers IF their end game is simply to find ’em, f~~~ ’em and flee.

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RoyDal — Sun, 26 Jul 2015 17:37:51 +0000

I agree. PUAs have devoted themselves to molding themselves into something that is appealing to women. That said, I have nothing against a man having a hobby. Chess Masters have “scores”, so why shouldn’t PUAs. It seems silly to me … but whatever floats their boats.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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Sun, 26 Jul 2015 17:57:56 +0000

All of the “Red Pill” people that I have encountered that didn’t describe themselves as having “gone their own way” simply ARE purple pill at the most. They even go as far as to make fun of MGTOW for disregarding women and “not getting some.” They do whatever it takes to get a woman in bed, and obsess over sex instead of see it as a mere pleasure. They’re the closest thing to “white knights” in the Red Pill spectrum that you can get…if that makes any sense.

Most of them would make fun of me for daring to question female nature and how men are screwed over in society today. They’re mostly those guys that will shame YOU for not being able to get a woman, not shame the women for getting to the point that they are today (ultra-feminized).

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ILiveAgain — Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:04:25 +0000

As long as they’re not getting caught in the web …. then maybe that is sort of going their own way.

I don’t much care as long as they don’t get me involved ☺

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Burgundy — Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:17:54 +0000

A box of grenades, in the middle of a field, known as women.

Blue pill men, walk over to them, like bugs moves towards a bright light, and blow themselves up, almost right away, unless they get lucky and the fuse timer is longer than expected, but the outcome is mostly guaranteed.

PUAs goes to the grenades, believing they know the fuse timer of the grenades, but among them all are always exceptions, and more important, unbeknownst to the PUA, the field they stepped in to get to the box, is littered with mines.

MGTOW, ignores the box in the middle of the field, as his metal detector is notifying him, there’s lots of metallic explosions around.

But yet again, there are plastic items, which may or may not explode on their paths, and it’s always in the best interest of a MGTOW to stay awake, and think things through, because once in a while, a delicious trap is presented to him.

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v9wlmn8c1982 — Sun, 26 Jul 2015 19:17:49 +0000

Well here’s what I believe. The PUA’s who sell books, have bootcamps etc… They know what’s going on with women and the gynocentric society but instead of telling other men the truth, they decided to make money out of it and pretend to help to give these men strategies so they can get a woman. They are scam artists, not pick up artists. I would say they are red pill but they hide it.

Now the so called students who try these pua techniques ranges from full blown blue pill to purple pill, none can be red pill. A red pill knows what the sexual energy is for and why sex is being over promoted everywhere. It’s to keep the men tired, unmotivated, procrastinating and obsessed with sex to kill their ambition.

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IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) — Sun, 26 Jul 2015 19:36:29 +0000

PUA culture has used Red Pill among them, so in their context, I won’t touch it. I do believe, from a MGTOW perspective, that PUA aren’t Red Pill the way MGTOW are Red Pill at all. The thing is, MGTOW can go a decent degree PUA, but PUA have a hard time going MGTOW Red Pill, because PUA get their identity and validation from how well they can pick up and bed women. For a MGTOW, I don’t see that as any relevant measure. A MGTOW may bed a bunch of different women, but I believe they can get their identity from other things.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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Fermat — Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:12:23 +0000

PUAs are not productive. Case closed. If you keep jumping around having sex and go about claiming you are going your own way your relationship life will end in disaster. Over time the sex will either bore you and you realize you wasted your life or you become desensitized and you become emotionally attached to one girl whose vagina is so unique from all the others she must be a NAWALT. Sleeping around with 200 women does not make you an expert on locating unicorns. It only desensitized you to the point you gradually relax your standards without realizing it. PUA tactics are a recipe for sexual and emotional disaster in the end. Good in the moment. Bad in the end. Nothing good or original has ever happened from the PUA movement.

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sidecar — Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:55:56 +0000

The Red Pill is simply understanding female nature.

MGTOW is one way of dealing with that knowledge. They know the risks inherent in women and apply common sense.

PUA is another. They view women as a game or sport, but have no concept of how dangerous that sport can be. They’re like the guys who show up at the race track in their street clothes with their beater honda civic with no cage and the factory seat belts but with $5000 rims and a spoiler. Sooner or later they either learn better or become a statistic.