MGTOWHow getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 14:42:12 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/page/364/#post-45598 <![CDATA[How getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/page/364/#post-45598 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 06:09:47 +0000 LucidLeo I will start out by saying I have been a white knight for most of my life. Only in the last few days (literally) have I jumped down from that horse and shed the suit and gone my own way.

I was raised in a fundamentalist christian family. Home schooled my entire education. I have 5 sisters and a brother. My dad worked a lot but tried to be home as much as possible, but he ended up being abusive to me so I learned to reject and hate my time with him. My mother was a lot more nice to me and nurturing but I have since looked a bit closer into how she was and the truth is she amped up the abuse my dad inflicted on me, she did not make it any less. Being at home all day with 5 sisters and a mother sucked, and when my dad did get home I nearly always received a beating from him and a long chew out session that took most of the evening. I was told never to have sex with a girl unless I married her and she is a christian. I thought since I had a bunch of sisters I would understand women better than most other men. I was wrong. I became a mangina, I had little self worth or self respect and women picked up on that fast. I was usually doing time in the “friendzone” and when I had a girlfriend I was never in control and I could not speak my mind without fearing she would dump me.

I have been single for most of my adult life since I eventually got sick of women and just would rather spend my time alone doing what I want. That has led to some depression and some addictive habits that I am only just breaking. Anyway, I was spending a lot of time on facebook and over the year I got heavily into environmental issues, politics, and stuff like that. I met a woman in one of the environmental groups I was in. She ended up being very much like what I am like at least from our initial conversations. After about 3 months of chatting her up online and feeling like I finally met my perfect match I moved in with her. Now one small detail that needs to be shared is that I am 29 and she is 49. She has a 23 year old autistic daughter that still lives with her and a 8 year old Asperger son also. I thought it would all work itself out magically since I was drunk with romantic love.

So I moved in with her, and enrolled in the local college for the next semester (I was on the GI Bill). The first month was pure bliss and each day was better than the last. We had lots of sex and for the first time in my life I really felt loved and accepted. But that was not to last, her son and ex husband quickly shattered any solace I had about the relationship going anywhere. Here ex is the stereotypical psycho ex, and I do agree he is a bit nuts. He is even older than she is (he is 61, basically grandpa age for his own son!) and I dont have much respect for him at all and he is emotionally abusive to the boy and verbally abusive to her. As far as the kid…yeah…She co sleeps with him, and what alarmed me is that I was actually in the way by being in bed with her. She missed her son. He would go back and sleep in his room for the first month after I moved in, but he started having meltdowns in school and she was stressing out and crying in the morning when she woke up. She was not interested in sex anymore and would not touch me. She began to pretty much ignore me and would give all the attention to her son.

I was shocked by this behavior, but I rationalized it because she has been abused in relationships before, and she was abused as a child, so I gave her a pass. I moved into the living room and have been sleeping on the couch ever since, even as I am writing this. She keeps the fact that she co sleeps with her 8 year old son a secret, wont tell anyone. This is every night, not just some  nights. She pulled him out of school about 3 months ago and has been “unschooling” him, which translated to letting him play video games and she waits on him hand and foot. My concerns and needs are ignored and I am always the one apologizing whenever there is a disagreement. I have no other friends, my family has pretty much disowned me because I do not follow their crazy religious beliefs.

She is a feminist, and I know better than to open up to her anymore since coming across MGTOW. I am going to move out as soon as I get the money and find a good job.  She never accepts responsibility for getting married to the wrong men. It is always the men’s fault. She never sets boundries for her kids and her older daughter was almost killed by one boyfriend she had. Her son is Asperger, so he only cares about video games and the only time he talks to her is if he wants food or is telling her some facts about video games. He actually would buy video games on xbox live with her credit card, and even after she told him not to do it, he did it anyway. This was hundreds of dollars. She does not believe in punishment and just politely tells him it is not nice to do that.

I have basically been kicked to the curb and she barely talks to me anymore. I used to think I was in love with her but more likely I was just happy to find someone. She got over me quick and thought me silly for staying in love with her. I am moving out as soon as I can, getting involved with a single mother is the worst idea ever!!! But thank god for MGTOW! It seriously brought me out of suicidal depression.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45602 <![CDATA[Reply To: How getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45602 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 06:18:20 +0000 Won'tGetFooledAgain It sounds like a totally messed up situation and you are far better off out of it.  As you said, you thought you were in love as you were happy to find someone and were getting regular sex.  Don’t feel bad about this, this is exactly why most Betas marry the first woman they end up getting regular sex from.

You are lucky in the fact that you are not married to her, don’t have kids with her and you can walk away a free man.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45603 <![CDATA[Reply To: How getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45603 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 06:21:42 +0000 Its very good to hear it brought you out of that terrible state brother…please, do not ever give your emotional soul to a woman again. There will be a time, when you want to, but do not..it is not worth what they do to your mind.

I’m glad and hope that you are feeling better, you are welcome here anytime.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45618 <![CDATA[Reply To: How getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45618 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 06:41:26 +0000 LucidLeo yes I never will get involved with women again, this was the last straw for me and I realized I do not need women! I never will bring a kid into this world and that is something I have always been clear about with women.Thanks for the welcome here and it will be my a place I am at a lot.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45620 <![CDATA[Reply To: How getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45620 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 06:46:02 +0000 LucidLeo

It sounds like a totally messed up situation and you are far better off out of it. As you said, you thought you were in love as you were happy to find someone and were getting regular sex. Don’t feel bad about this, this is exactly why most Betas marry the first woman they end up getting regular sex from. You are lucky in the fact that you are not married to her, don’t have kids with her and you can walk away a free man.

yeah I was a beta male and still sort of am, but that is changing. I found a youtube channel called “askluimarco” and it basically destroyed much of my old thinking about myself and about women. I will never get married, have kids or any of that. I just want to go my own way and I no longer care for women or feel I need them in my life to be a complete man.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45646 <![CDATA[Reply To: How getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45646 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 07:17:11 +0000 sidecar F~~~ing hell.  It doesn’t matter if you’re MGTOW or alpha or beta or whatever label you want, get the f~~~ out of that house NOW.  That place is a train wreck waiting to happen.  It’s a ship sailing blind in iceberg season.  It’s going down and you need to make damn certain you aren’t there when it does.  And whatever you do, do NOT give any hints about your exit strategy.  She may not be sleeping with you right now, but I can all but guarantee as soon as she gets a hint that you’re on your way out she’ll start planning an “accidental” pregnancy to trap you your bank account.  Her first hint should be coming home to find you already gone.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45658 <![CDATA[Reply To: How getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45658 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 07:30:58 +0000 LucidLeo

F~~~ing hell. It doesn’t matter if you’re MGTOW or alpha or beta or whatever label you want, get the f~~~ out of that house NOW. That place is a train wreck waiting to happen. It’s a ship sailing blind in iceberg season. It’s going down and you need to make damn certain you aren’t there when it does. And whatever you do, do NOT give any hints about your exit strategy. She may not be sleeping with you right now, but I can all but guarantee as soon as she gets a hint that you’re on your way out she’ll start planning an “accidental” pregnancy to trap you your bank account. Her first hint should be coming home to find you already gone.

Yes I am working on that. I am keeping to myself and staying out of her issues. Thanks for the comment I am thankful to hear it from guys, I am picking up the pieces of a wrecked life and rebuilding. At least I am still somewhat young. I will start looking for a new place immediately.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45661 <![CDATA[Reply To: How getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45661 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 07:45:07 +0000 sidecar

I will start looking for a new place immediately.

Good man.  And I’m serious about not letting her know anything until after you’re long gone.  Even if she doesn’t have an intentional “accidental” pregnancy there are still other things she can do to you, and she will not be happy about you leaving.  Monkeys don’t like it when their branch bails on them.

As distasteful as it sounds you might consider going back to your family in the short term, even if it means “accepting jesus” or whatever, just to get out of where you are soonest.  Or check into the weekly rates at a local motel.  Anything.  Whatever it takes to make your exit abrupt, without warning, and SOONER THAN YESTERDAY.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45672 <![CDATA[Reply To: How getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45672 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 08:31:51 +0000 experienced @Dolla D, thanks for,

Please do not ever give your emotional soul to a woman again. There will be a time, when you want to, but do not..it is not worth what they do to your mind.

Saved that quote for my kid.  Well said.

@sidecar: thank you for the heavy lifting here as well. That Lucid Leo’s life  is on fire and he needs out now!!!!!!!!!!!!! and you are spot on, ABRUPTLY , IMMEDIATELY.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45829 <![CDATA[Reply To: How getting involved with a single mom lead me to MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-getting-involved-with-a-single-mom-lead-me-to-mgtow/#post-45829 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:08:41 +0000 MadScientist If you haven’t already, check out the LISTEN part of this site with Tom Leykis talking about never, ever dating a single mother. I’ll tell you.. I didn’t get as far as you, but I also dated a single mom for a bit and it didn’t take long for that train wreck to start coming. I will never even consider dating a single mom again.

Good luck to you, and welcome to MGTOW!

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