My mother herself is virtually impossible to deal with. I learned a long time ago (not long enough, though) that her advice was usually always wrong, and always terrible, and that I should stop listening to her immediately. She can’t cook, can’t clean, can’t drive a nail into a wall, does everything half-assed, etc. I basically learned to do all of those activities for myself as a young boy, and thank god I did. But it doesn’t stop there, because aside from sucking at just about everything, I also feel that she sucked at parenthood. But that’s what happens when you are only having kids out of sheer embarrassment or desperation, and not love. The woman is bad at everything she does and is almost child like in her behavior. I recall a time recently where she knocked over my plant and the plant fell out of the dirt. Like a true coward, she stuffed the plant back in the dirt (very sloppily) and pretends it never happened, hoping I wouldn’t notice. When I saw the plant I immediately noticed it had been dropped, and know that she was the only one who could have possibly done it. I brought it to her attention in a calm manner (I didn’t really care, not a big deal) and like the hardheaded, self-entitled person she is, she of course denied it. She then had the cowardly audacity to blame it on my dog! lol. But the best is when she began feeling cornered, knowing that the evidence was raining down on her. She then had a typical outburst and began to lash out at me, screaming that I shouldn’t have left it there in the first place.

For a woman in her 60’s, that is pretty pathetic and juvenile behavior. This is just one instance, but rest assured there have been TONS of situations like this throughout my life, and not 1 has ever been her fault. Sad. My mom is also never wrong, cannot take responsibility and “man-up” for her many mistakes, and is always trying to defy me and blame me for every mistake. It has gotten so bad over the years that I basically just stopped talking to her about anything relevant because I know it will go in 1 ear and out the other, so its a waste of my time. She normally will just YES me to death in the moment, and then completely disregard what I said a day later. It’s quite honestly rude and disrespectful, but I put up with it for many years because “she’s my mom”. Quite frankly though, as I get older I just do not have the patience for it anymore. That is why we are pretty much on a “hi-bye” basis nowadays. She is just an overall very frustrating, and difficult human to deal with. Never applies logic to anything or sees the bigger picture in things. It’s sad because this is my Mother – the 1 true person who is supposed to have my back in life through thick and thin – and I know for a fact that I wouldn’t be able to count on her for anything. I would LIKE to have a good relationship with my mother, but that just isn’t a possibility for me in this lifetime. Growing up we are taught that our mothers are our protectors and our nurturers, but I feel this is just another one of societies bulls~~~ fantasies. When you wake from the matrix and see mothers for what they really are, it might scare you.

Now I’m not saying there aren’t any good mothers out there. I’m specifically referring to mine and trying to describe the frustrations I have to deal with when dealing with her. I know for a fact my mother is disappointed in her son for not being married or having kids, but instead of supporting and understanding my decision/statistical facts, she is the type to completely disregard all of that and think I’m some kind of “freak”. There must be something wrong with me obviously, because society is perfect and women are beautiful and precious creatures!

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if my Aunts and other useless family members gossip to my Mom about me and ask if I’m gay, lol. They are all a bunch of old fashioned crows who don’t know about anything that goes on in the modern world. Only what “The View” or “Dr. Oz” tells them. Well to hell with her and them I say. People like that are not my family, they are no better than a common stranger, and that includes my mom. If she can’t understand me or support my decisions, then she won’t get any sympathy from me, despite her title. It just sucks that I have to “celebrate” mother’s day AND her birthday. 😛

I’m curious how other MGTOW’s view their moms and if anybody else feels a similar way.

However she hated:

Her parents

Her husband

And wished I had not been born.

However she took her responsibility as a parent seriously, but that’s all I was.  A responsibility.

Soon as I went to college.  She divorced my father.  After college I lived with my father and came to understand that he was not a monster as she always made it seem but just a beta blue guy trying his best.

The biggest complaint I would have about my mother, and it’s one I have confronted her with many times now, is that she has shown severe lack of respect for everything my father has done over the years, and SOOOOO much of her discontent comes from the typical lack of material possession most females concentrate on.

My dad spent his early years as a door to door vinyl siding and vinyl window salesman. He would be considered among the pioneers of the industry. He built his first company and then sold it for profit within the first 5-6 years. He then built another company that he would grow to be one of the more respected and well known names in the business in our area. He was successful for 25 years with this company. He then got the opportunity to sell that company as well for a nice profit. His plan was to then go from retail to wholesale by opening his own distributorship. He sold the company and within months was already beginning his new enterprise. The first year we broke even, which was fine with us and to be expected. The second year we made a decent profit as we grew. Unfortunately we never made it through year three because one of the manufacturers in which we had about 60% of our inventory invested in decided to close up shop, and they did so without telling any of their investors. So by the time we found out they would be going out of business, it was simply too late for us to move all that product. The inventory in question was devalued by about 90%, and my dad and his partner got screwed big time, landing both of them in bankruptcy court as the lawyers tried to get everything they could out of them. My dad was savvy enough to have the right documentation to salvage his major assets in terms of the house, cars, and a few joint holdings they couldn’t touch. But they got him for a large portion of his retirement savings. This needless to say, was a big setback.

My mother actually blamed my dad for this, as if it was his intention to lose a large portion of his life’s work up to that point! How absurd is that? So, after spending several years recovering, and not having much money left to spend after all the bills my father ALONE supports without help from my mother, who has NEVER held a job, my dad finally pays off the house they live in. So despite the setback, and at 65 years old when it happened, my dad being the man he is, went out and kept at it. He scrounged things together and made s~~~ work. During this period, my mom would say stupid s~~~ like “I never thought we’d be poor”, or “why did you have to sell the company” as if my dad intended to lose all that money. It changed my view of her. My dad never cheated, was always where he was supposed to be and always delivered when he said he’d do something. But all that apparently meant nothing when the money wasn’t there any more.

Now, my parents are doing the classic deal where my dad sleeps downstairs on the pullout bed, and my mom sleeps in the main bedroom. They don’t talk much, and they have both lost all respect for each other.

I love my mom, and as I opened with, she has always been there for me, so I don’t have any complaints against how she has treated me. She has always displayed unconditional love toward me. But she s~~~s on my dad more often than the wind blows, and nothing he does is enough for her. She knows full well I’ll side with my dad on most issues. My dad and I are bros and get along famously as we have very similar worldviews. My mom knows not to push certain buttons of mine unless she wants a dose of reality that goes with it. I’ve criticized her lack of respect toward my dad many times, and she hasn’t ever really given me anything but emotional garbage in return on that aspect.

So yeah, I love my mom for all the right reasons, and I criticize her for all the right reasons. But in the end, she displays typical female behavior when it comes to entitlement and not being able to realize how hard it is to earn a living in today’s society and doesn’t appreciate much of what she has been given. It’s a luxury to live in a two story house in a nice neighborhood in the Midwest United States, but she would tell you she’s poor despite never working a day in her life. It’s a joke really.

One thing I will say though, that woman can cook!!

My mother passed away about 13 years ago. She was an INCREDIBLE woman! One thing she said ALWAYS stood out to me:

“Women shouldn’t have the right to vote”.

I looked at her in shock and awe. Her explanation was that she hears other women voting for presidential candidates because they’re “cute”.

Yes, my mom was that old fashioned and did NOT respect womens irresponsiblity. I can only recall ONE time where she disrespected my father in front of me and my sister.

Growing up in a household with such old school values f~~~ed me up even more realising the girls and fake dudes I would later face. It also set me up for an ideal and expectations I cant achieve in todays day and age.

Ya. My mom and dad were “that” couple. Never heard my mother disrespect my father. They never divorced. They were great.

I almost think that experience makes it more difficult to approach todays day and age, bevause THAT “reality” no longer exists.

They were fantastic people and great parents. I dont see ANY thing like it today. They are the only reason I think there could be a hope for having a family with values, but they didnt grow up in my generation. So who knows.

Edog wrote:

I have a pretty good relationship with my mother. She really is a good mother in the traditional sense regarding nurturing. She has always been there for me and always shows genuine concern and care for me.

Oh also, my parents both cooked great, learned from both. Now I try to spend as much time as I can with my mom while she is alive, and we cook together when possible, also watch some movies/series etc. when Im home.

For me, it was the antithesis: I grew up in an old school home in which my mother respected my father, and they each respected their own roles. Having THAT as a background f~~~ed me up even more facing the fact that todays world isnt like that.

Thats where Im coming from anyway.

S~~~ -wish I was born in an earlier generation. Men were men, and women were women. So much simpler.

As a previous poster said it also f~~~ed me up growing up in an old school household. It knocked me on my ass when I found out about fake people in the real world. Especially women. Households I grew up in don’t exist anymore. The bottom line is I have absolutely nothing bad to say about my late parents.

R.I.P mom and dad.

same thing. they’re still alive, but they are unicorn couple. In short, my mom is best whore, second only to my grandmother who was a saint whore.

I had a “Leave it to Beaver” household. Dad worked while mom took care of the 3 of us. VERY old fashion. When you f~~~ed up you were punished. When you did well you were rewarded. Every swat we got was deserved. I didn’t realize how well I was brought up until I saw the real world.

Same here! I had it good. Mom is appalled by modern feminists and campus communists.

When it comes to making families work, Leave it to Beaver had the right of it.