Where to begin is the question …  Im not single man , i am actually married by my rule with no concessions made or sacrifices to my manliness . Well no marriage is 100% perfection by any means , i do not allow my wife to act silly in our house with nonsense and irrational complaints etc. She tries to emotionally black mail me at times but i call her bluff all the times . For an example  “i will divorce you if you don’t change ” my reply ” meet me at the registry office today to divorce , hahaha i dont take this kind of bulls~~~ anymore from women . Besides that i love my wife and she loves me back (pretty sure of this) .

Well i can identify with the Ghost Generation and MGTOW movement in many ways from my early teens till my late 20’s.  The world if full of pathetic women with unreachable standard’s that neither of us can obtain. This is still the common problem and i for one cannot see it ending .

I was not popular in high school , bit of a recluse  i guess i was a ghost but didnt realise it  the time , i never dated  and never even kissed a girl that how sad i was.  Anyways my parents were divorced for many years and my dad was not exactly a great model dad to base life off or gain any kind of realistic advice . He is tho very good at womanising , but that not my thing .

I left High School and went to College and things werent getting any better i was still bad with women , tho by this time i was kind of desperate for a girlfriend and i was prepared to obtain this at any cost.I finished college and went to the united kingdom then to Alberta Canada to my dad . I didnt know what to do with my life , i felt i needed a woman to make me happy.

Story short lol  , i started going to chat room’s because i didnt have the skills or the confidence to get a woman in the bar or in reality (everyday life).I met alot of women and i thought they were great at first but obviously i was more often used as an emotional tampón as it goes , or an orbiter. I did start relationships with some of them in person and what not  , sex etc  and like most men i invested a great deal in them to try get some fulfillment in my life and they let me down in a number of ways  , most common being total liers and cheaters.  One woman had 3 guy’s on the go behind my back.

Enough was enough i told those women to hit the road , but i was enraged about how abusive and callous women were and could i ever trust one again ?  Well i learned alot about women from those days  and how to identify nutjobs and cheaters and that is most women out there with exception of a few rare gem’s

I was doing my thing for next 2 years , doing as i pleased answering to no one at all  . Great time  my Xbox collection increased from 4 to 155 in those month’s , i substituted real women for pornography  and lived by my own laws . But i could not give up on women entirely , but this time i would be prepared for all possibilities and extreme vetting process.

. I met my wife and i have been married for 3 years now, i love the bitch so much  been  together almost 8 years in total . Some great times and some s~~~ times , but nothing serious as in my previous relationship’s , she is very level headed woman thank god,  as i said before i dont make any concessions against my freedom to be a man  i go out alone if i want to etc and if she dont like it she can go if she want’s . Pre nup is a must before marriage guy’s  , what is your’s is your’s.

But i do not know what the future will hold  and if this relationship should end for whatever reason . I will defo be joining the MGTOW brotherhood  full time . All the power to you guy’s and you have my continued support. And keep it MANLY .

Peace out

Hi All

“Im not single man”******married******”I met my wife and i have been married for 3 years now, i love the bitch so much”******”i do not know what the future will hold”******

DEY DUDE, Nice Unicorn, why are you prancing around MGTOW with her, and tearing up our turf?

Whoa there Andy,

“i am actually married by my rule with no concessions made or sacrifices to my manliness”

Your manliness isn’t an issue here, but a marriage is a contract which if it goes pear-shaped, will be decided in court, (not a registry office) then you will be forced to make concessions and sacrifices by a judge, and also be aware not all pre-nups are honoured in a court.

She will surprise you when she stops getting what she REALLY wants from you.

BVC

However, I would use restraint showcasing your “unicorn with an ice cream cone” around these parts.  After three years of marriage I could be found saying the same things touting our reciprocal love.  I ruled the roost and was living like a King for a while.

Get back to me after kids and 16 years of marriage, then you might get my attention.

We need to come up with some realistic odds here. There is a lot to bet on here.

lol

BVC

Courts throw them out all the time, and when they do, it will up to the judge and the attorneys to distribute those things you currently think are yours. By the time the two attorneys get done arguing about wether the prenup is valid, which judge they want to argue in from of and what day they want to do it… they will have soaked up about a third of the ‘family assets’ in legal fees. They refer to them as ‘the family’s’ assets even though everyone involved knows you earned them. Get used to that.

Here’s a reality check: when the court dissolves a marriage and ‘awards’ the women a bunch of assets that she never worked to earn, she doesn’t pay any income taxes. Ever notice that? Even the celebrity divorces where you see women getting millions in divorce payoffs, they still pay no taxes. I asked a tax attorney about this once because it seemed odd to me that in a situation where money is changing hands, the government usually wants a cut. The tax attorney explained it this way, “The husband paid income taxes on that money when he earned it. But, the government does not tax her on that money because it was already hers…”.

Let that sink in for a minute.

You earned it. You even paid taxes on it. But in the eyes of the government, it is not yours. Hopefully, your prenup will hold up if you ever need it. If it does not, or possibly even if it does, you can still be accused of domestic violence, arrested and removed from your home by the police and served with a restraining order to prevent you from returning… all based on her accusation ALONE. No evidence necessary. You can be out of the country and if she makes that statement to the police, a warrant will be issued for you arrest on the spot. Of course, her attorney will be a reasonable person and will cut you some slack and let you know that the domestic violence charges might be dropped as a result of the infinite generosity of your wife’s womanly heart… in exchange for a ‘fair divorce settlement’… Using threats of criminal charges as leverage in a civil action is supposed to be illegal. But what doesn’t get enforced doesn’t really matter…and women are generally not held accountable.

You didn’t say wether you had children, but I don’t really need to ask. I know you don’t have children because you can’t have children. You can get her pregnant. You can pay her way through the pregnancy and put your name on the birth certificate and pay for those kids all the way through college… but, you can’t have kids. She has kids. They are HERS. If you don’t believe it, hang out as a spectator in your local divorce court for a day and watch what happens to the kids that men thought they had. She can take them from you anytime she chooses, for any reason she chooses, or for no reason at all. She can hold them hostage for ransom that the state will jail you if you don’t pay. The amount of the ransom will not be determined by you, and this cannot be specified in a prenup in most states. But no matter how much or how reliably you pay, the kids will not be returned to you. If you’re lucky, you’ll get to visit them sometime…

If you’re not lucky, you may end up paying for kids that are not even yours. I’ll state quickly here that I don’t bring this up to suggest anything insulting about your wife. I’m not suggesting that she’s screwing around on you. I mention it to make the point that women are NEVER had accountable for paternity fraud, wether they commit that fraud against someone they are married to, or not. My derision and insult is for the system that allows this, not your wife. But the fact remains that if she has a child and you are married, many states just assume you to be the father. If you don’t protest for at least one year, your lose your right to protest and the state will extract child support from you even if at a date later than one year you can prove with a paternity test that the child is not yours. It’s easy to google this and find stories of men who have clearly proven that a child is not theirs, but the state continues to force them to pay child support. Google title 9 funds to understand why the state would do this.

I am sincere when I say that I don’t bring this up to insult you or your wife or to make you feel unwelcome here. I am just complaining out loud about a system that has made the situation you are in, through no fault of your own, a situation where you have almost no power and essentially no real reliable rights. It’s not your fault that it is screwed up as badly as it is, but it is most certainly screwed up. It is screwed up so bad that on this one site, there are at least 5000 guys who have said they’d rather have no wife at all than to have one under the current circumstances you agreed to for yourself.

There was a joke above about starting a betting pool on you, and I hope you can accept it that way. But what is not a joke is that if there were a betting pool on you, the statistics indicate that the odds in that pool would be even money…right about 50/50. There is a 50% chance to get to keep the assets you earned, the personal and professional reputation you’ve also earned, and the freedom you were born with. There is an identical chance that you will have some or all of those things taken from you for exactly zero fault of your own.

As long as she remains satisfied, you are safe and in a happy marriage and I’ll commend you on your accomplishment. But if she becomes dissatisfied for any reason, including reasons that have zero to do with you or how well you’ve lived up to being a good spouse for her, she can destroy your life in about an hour and you will never completely recover from it. She can do this at zero risk to herself. In the process, you will be presumed guilty and she will be presumed innocent. If she is found to by lying at any point in your destruction, she will not be held accountable. If she lies under oath, or makes a false claim to the police, she will not be prosecuted for criminal perjury, or for civil fraud and you will not have the presumption of innocence in either scenario.

Basically, you must keep her happy by whatever means she dictates, for the rest of her life, or she and the state will very likely ruin you. That might be reasonable if what it takes to keep her happy was a constant. But it can change with no notice and you can still be expected to meet that standard, and punished badly if you don’t.

In the assessment of the different things that might happen in your marriage, it seems like I forgot to mention what happens if you become dissatisfied. I didn’t forget. I didn’t mention it because it doesn’t matter. Nobody cares wether you’re satisfied or not. You’re the man. That’s not your fault, but that’s how f~~~ed up things are now.

Personally, I’ve jumped from airplanes and raced motorcycles and jet skis and petted sharks in open water at different times in my life… but I would not take the risk you are taking right now. I’m a 48 year old doctor with a paid off house, a solid professional reputation and a well funded retirement. There is a lot that I could do to improve the standard of living and quality of life of almost any woman out there. But I have way too much to lose to be risking half of all of it on the whims of a person who makes emotionally based decisions, unhinged from reason, unaccountable to either law or morality, and controlled by continuously changing levels of estrogen.

Stakes too high.
Odds too low.
Rules are too one sided.

Not for me, but I hope you end up being one of the surviving 50%.