When i was talking to my “shrink” (i have some anxiety issue) about one girl that i used to be infatuted to…. she told me that girl does not love me, neither i love her. I am just infatuetad. So I kinda dedicated my mgtow way “getting off” that infatuation feeling, becouse it is like drug. So.. back to the story, i was thinking a lot, after that talk, researched a lot, and find out that neither moust women, neither man knows “True love” (kidna romantic term). Its very hard to explane feeling. Its “mutal” emotion, it cant exist on its own. If u are into someone and he is not into you back its not “true love”.

So what was i thinking… does going your own way, makes you more capable expiriance true love?

p.s.

I am not advocating marriage, neither relationship, i justa wanne hear different oppinions.

I sort of still bealive in love. I just lost my trust in people (women) i dont think moust of them are capable of loving…. people(women, cuz im not interested in guys, but i think that guys are incapable too for that)

Real love… that’s a different thing. I believe that you can only really love other people when you are capable of loving yourself, otherwise the “love” you’re giving is bound up in a sense of self-sacrifice driven by guilt or expectations that others will reciprocate.

So if you mean love as in the sort of hot chick infatuation, I think being MGTOW will pretty much inoculate you against that in time. But in exchange, being MGTOW will give you the ability to love yourself and then give that love freely and without expectation to others, particularly to other men who you will no longer see as competition for females but rather fellow travelers who have real value to offer in exchange for your own.

Love, friendship, respect, admiration are the emotional response of one man to the virtues of another, the spiritual payment given in exchange for the personal, selfish pleasure which one man derives from the virtues of another man’s character. – Ayn Rand

So now that I’m working on sorting myself out, becoming an assertive, independent, self interested man, looking out for myself and taking no s~~~, if I did ever happen to come across a woman that fit into my reality then there would be an opportunity for something, however my gut feeling is that unicorns don’t actually exist.

Of coarse she say’s that’s still wrong and unacceptable, and she’s against the infidelity.

Then why did you presume Men are the cheaters automatically?  If people are going to cheat they are going to cheat no matter what.  Perhaps it’s the notion of exclusivity on a long term basis that’s the real problem and Ashley Madison is just taking commercial advantage of a f~~~ed up situation.  What’s in it for me to be in a relationship?  I get to pay for everything  and not have sex with other woman?

No I just think, if someone’s in a marriage…blah blah blah…….

Well thank the f~~~ I’m not, it’s marriage that’s the problem, not the cheating, that’s just a symptom.

What’s in it for me to be in a relationship? I get to pay for everything and not have sex with other woman?

Funny!

I’ve known a good handful of “perfect” couples who looked at each other in “that unshakable way”, and they were known among peers as those couples you would use as a unit of measure and the gold standard for comparison as the kind of relationship many wished they had.

A facade.

In 4 out of 5, the man originally was “higher status” and she was “in love” with the status. When he aged , went bald, or was no longer high-ranking and was just “a man” (i.e still young retired athlete, older, or not an high performing athlete anymore)…. she cheated and left. The 5th guy was dumped by girl #5 at the lowest point in his life. 6 years later he was at the top of his game, extremely high earning in a new city, career, with a model fiancee 12 years younger and getting married. The girl who dumped him actually unloaded on ME about how she regretted her mistake and wanted to find a way into his life. She was married to someone else (TOTAL BETA) with two children. I refused to help her based on principal. Didn’t even give her his email. But I also didn’t correct her when she was in tears over him and I knew his new situation was not as “perfect” as she believed.

From my car 2 days ago I saw something rare. A very cute girl was standing at a red light smiling at someone crossing the street toward her. Boyfriend. When he approached, she looked at him in exactly the same way I remember “perfect couple” #5 above… ran her fingers through his hair and kissed him right there in the cross walk and looked into his eyes for a lingering minute. You don’t see too many couples doing that anymore. And I smiled thinking “that’s nice”.

We all know how it will play out.

I have been there a few times myself. Even in the most “successful” longer lasting relationship(s) it was a temporary pleasure that lasted a few weeks at most – and hinged on her feelings towards me. A relationship transforms out of that state, it evolves, and one tends to hang on anyway because you have built up history and memories together now.

Love means something else to me now. It’s whatever you give – to anyone you want. A stranger. A friend. A relative. A helping hand. An underdog. Any kind of humane generosity gives me the same high. It doesn’t depend on a specific female or her “feelings” towards me. Where I used to think it only existed if I was the RECEIVER (from a female)… it is now up to me and exists whenever I feel like being the GIVER. Just a 180-degree flip in perception.

That’s grabbing it by the reigns and owning it myself.

Throughout most of history, most people knew this. Marriage was a sensible economic contract between two people for mutual support and the procreation of legitimate children. Yes there were bad marriages, and in the worst cases people separated if they could.

Most people I suspect realised that it was sensible to make the best of things and try to get on with each other. Men and women knew that economically and socially they were much worse off if they split up.

Then, economics and society changed and there was no longer any need or desire for marriage to be an economic contract. It became all about ‘soulmates’, ‘romance’ etc. This is quite a new idea – 200 years or so. Of course, it’s nonsense – once the initial romance wears off there’s nothing left.

The trouble is, society and the media, and many religions, are still promoting the idea of marriage despite it being obviously unfit for purpose for most people.

Woman loves your Resources.  Stop providing and she will ‘Biffault’s Law’ your Monkey Ass.