MGTOWGreetings and Salutations! – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 07:55:15 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/page/440/#post-22526 <![CDATA[Greetings and Salutations!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/page/440/#post-22526 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:24:52 +0000 zyo81 Hey everybody,

I’ve been lurking here for a while and decided to introduce myself.  I’m a 34 year old man who has no children and has never been married.  I live in the United States.  I’ve never wanted children, I guess that helped me walk in the right direction.

It seems like I’ve been bouncing between purple pill and red pill most of my adult life but didn’t know until recently there were others like me.  When I was in high school I had a couple girlfriends, one of which was 1.5 years long which has been the longest relationship of my life.  That taught me that the longer you stay with a woman the more it seems to be about her and not the man.  I actually got her pregnant but she had a miscarriage.  Yes I was thankful.  When she originally told me she was pregnant, by the way I was 17 at the time, I had what I now know to be a panic attack.  It really woke me up.

In my early to mid twenties I had several short relationships and flings, usually with women I didn’t care about because I found most of them boring.  I realized that the more I didn’t care the easier it was to get what I want.  Unfortunately I was not skilled enough to act the same way when I found a girl I really loved, as I have fallen in love twice, and both times turned into a beta and totally screwed it up.  The first time I was friend zoned out of the relationship, and the second time I was a cuddle bitch.  After the first time I was pretty sure I’d never love again, and even though I did I definitely feel even more jaded and bitter towards women after the second time.

One thing I’ve never done is spend much money on women.  My parents were divorced when I was 9 and I saw what happened to my father.  He lost everything he owned.  Now let me tell you, my father is a terrible person, and he took me to his mistresses house to play with her kids while he cheated during the day, while my mom slept because she had the night shift at the hospital.  He was also abusive.  He probably deserved it, but it showed me early on how much power the courts have and that you can lose everything.  Add on to that the fact that he remarried and even though he makes a six figure income and makes more than his wife, he has a small allowance he is given for himself.  Often he drove either an older or cheaper car or small truck while his wife drove a brand new car, usually upgrading to a new lexus, bmw, etc every few years.

I never understood why if men made the most money why it is that women decorate the house.  If we’re truly equal what’s this chivalry all about?  I would ask these questions often as a child and it generally really p~~~ed people off.  The most common reaction was saying things like “You’ll understand someday” or “That’s just how it is”.

When I got older and got into relationships I would break up with women as soon as I could tell they wanted to control me.  I didn’t know what a s~~~ test was, I just thought she was being a bitch and I didn’t want to deal with it.  Girls would want me to change my hair, wear clothes they bought me, stop smoking (okay that probably would have been a good idea), but the thing is that even if I wanted to do something they wanted for me, out of spite I would refuse, probably because I didn’t want to end up like my father, or my friends that I saw as we grew into adults together that were heading down the same path.

I often would try to argue with people as I was older that what they are doing is wrong and they should stand up for themselves, and this caused me a lot of grief.  They would accuse me of being too negative, of being an asshole, sabotaging their relationship or being gay.  Now some of these people are already divorced.  One of them is living in his mothers garage.  I remember another telling me that if I kept acting the way I was and “keeping it real” and not playing the game that I would end up alone.  This man is now divorced, paying child support for 2 children, has 600 dollars a month to live on even though his wife makes more money, and just moved in with another woman that has kids from a previous relationship.  He also told me one of the last times I saw him “I don’t regret it because I love my kids, but I would kill to be in your situation.”

It’s not like it’s been a nonstop party for me.  I lived at home with mom a very long time to pay off my debts and save money to buy my home instead of shacking up with some girl I didn’t really care for.  Because of this the older I got the more women looked down on me and I even had a 3.5 year dry spell.  But you know what?  I think I’m better off for it as it taught me to live without sex even before the hormone fog lifted.  Also getting high speed internet and the way porn has advanced certainly helps.

Now I own my own home and have money to put aside and invest.  I still love the fact that when I get off work, I can do whatever I want.  My coworkers often call their wives just to get permission to make a stop on the way home.   I find this ludicrous and would never put up with it.  I consider myself very fortunate that things ended up like they did.

I’m very happy with my life now and while I still get some occasional casual sex and would consider having a girlfriend I would see once or twice a week I cannot imagine sharing my home with a woman.  I’ve worked too hard to set up my life the way I want.  I will admit that if I met someone amazing, you refer to them as nawalts, I might be tempted to change my mind but I’m sure that these women don’t exist, or if they do I’ve never met one.  Even then I would never sign a marriage contract, and if she demanded it I think that reveals her for what she truly is right there.

Finding this site has made me feel a lot better about my choices.  I try not to depend on external validation but after feeling like a stranger in a strange land, or maybe more accurately the one sane man in the asylum for most of my adult life, hearing so many having similar views to me gives me a sense of acceptance and helps to reinforce in my mind that going my own way wasn’t so crazy after all.  So thank you.

I’d also like to thank everyone for the content I’ve had the pleasure of viewing so far.  Especially KeyMaster’s posts and Sandman’s videos, which I have only seen a fraction of but will try to view them all in time.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22530 <![CDATA[Reply To: Greetings and Salutations!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22530 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:35:30 +0000 CPT Obvious Welcome zyo81.  Very glad you decided to stop lurking and join us.  Thanks for the well-written intro, I enjoyed reading it.

It is obvious that you have benefited from women not controlling your life.  Some of us had to learn the hard way.  And some us *ahem* had to get our b~~~~ kicked up to our chin more than once to learn.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22532 <![CDATA[Reply To: Greetings and Salutations!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22532 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:37:32 +0000 zyo81 Thanks Captain Obvious for the warm welcome, I glad you enjoyed my post.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22537 <![CDATA[Reply To: Greetings and Salutations!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22537 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:54:13 +0000 Welcome zyo81!

I enjoyed reading your story as it resonates with my experience, and what I’ve seen happen to my friends too. I always bucked them when they tried to control me even as a blue pill fool. I think it saved me from ever getting ruined…I mean married though.

I wish there really were such a thing as girlfriends that we could only see one day or two days a week who never speak to us on the phone for more than 15 minutes, and would never cheat on us or try to move in with us. We call them unicorns.

Have a great International MGTOW Day!

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22547 <![CDATA[Reply To: Greetings and Salutations!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22547 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 22:34:24 +0000 zyo81 Thanks ChauvinishPig for the welcome.  Your comment gave me a funny thought.  Maybe all those “Bronies” out there are really just chasing unicorns.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22549 <![CDATA[Reply To: Greetings and Salutations!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22549 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 22:40:58 +0000 hey zyo81, you have arrived here with a beautiful MGTOW stallion! Never trade it for a unicorn, it’s just a myth! Have your own home, NICE, Have your own time, NICE, have your own space, NICE! Welcome Bro “You’ll understand someday” that day is today!
Nice post!

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22556 <![CDATA[Reply To: Greetings and Salutations!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22556 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:03:37 +0000 zyo81 Thanks MG-Tower,  I’m considering a vasectomy to make sure I maintain the status quo.  I thought about it at 25 and people said I’d change my mind someday.  Hasn’t happened, not gonna happen.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22557 <![CDATA[Reply To: Greetings and Salutations!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22557 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:17:19 +0000

people said I’d change my mind someday. Hasn’t happened, not gonna happen.

Effin A! It’s your mind, make it anyway you want! How COOL is that! No brain blender, life sapper! Enjoy your life, and not devote it to a some nagging unappreciative asshole(wife)!

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22574 <![CDATA[Reply To: Greetings and Salutations!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22574 Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:15:43 +0000 Oh, she’ll look beautiful, smell like a rose, be so into you and we’ll feel so great just being with her. Whenever she senses we’re snared, she sets the hook and sheds her skin to reveal the hissing slimy reptilian that makes up her true core.

The only way out is through a gauntlet of vicious lawyers who train specifically to rape, pillage and plunder you and give her the spoils.

I also looked up what a “Bronie” was. You have given me material for a future satirical mocking of manginas. I can’t believe there are men into that. I used to mock one of nieces for playing with them when they were first introduced.

Whoa!!!!

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22576 <![CDATA[Reply To: Greetings and Salutations!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/greetings-and-salutations/#post-22576 Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:32:27 +0000 zyo81 I’m really looking forward to seeing that Bronie material.

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