MGTOW"Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term! – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 13:51:29 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/page/449/#post-18955 <![CDATA["Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/page/449/#post-18955 Sun, 01 Feb 2015 00:04:19 +0000 Brian Newer to the manosphere, but this mantality has been with me for 20 years.  I’m 36 now, and always felt something was “off” with the male/female dynamic in our Amerikwan society.  Now I see specifically what feminism is and what it’s designed to do.  I’m moving out of state with a couple roommates in the next month or so.  Fellow MRA’s.  Looking to microfarm, get some chickens, they have water storage already.  Get as off the grid as reasonably possible, find a basic job and pay off the last of my debts once and for all, and buy a house close by for cheap.  It’ll be nice to have a group to shoot the s~~~ with and not always be c~~~-blocking or white knighting all over each other competing for every piece of ass that walks by.

A former friend invited me over for drinks, and his chubby ex-girlfriend called him up offering the possiblity of secks, and he had me take a cab home so he could go take a crack at her crack.  F~~~ing dishonorable, disgusting, lowbrow worthless individual.  And this is the new norm.  “Hey, it’s all about the pussy.”  No it’s not, you simian f~~~.  “Beggars can’t be choosers.”  Who says we’re beggars.  What kind of people are these?  “My girlfriend let’s me f~~~ her in the ass, so I watch what I say and don’t wanna p~~~ her off.”  Ah yes, sodomy, the substance of any healthy lifestyle.  Wasn’t it Patrick Henry himself who said, “Give me liberty, or give me buttsex!”?

Now I see that there’s enough mgtow doing this very thing that you have a term for it called “ghosting.”  I liken it to Atlas Shrugged, or “going John Galt.”  Now as we know, women are more childlike compared to men, and what do you do when a child misbehaves?  You take his toys away for a while.  Woman have had all of western civilization as their toy for over a century, and it’s declining into filth specifically because they are now the ones at the helm.  So we who have the ability to keep things running simply, as much as possible, stop.  And hopefully not in the too far off future, it becomes fashionable again for women to act like women, wives and mothers, and not Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton, Snooki, etc.  And if they don’t?  If civilization truly is destroyed?  Well, is it worth living if you have to hear any headline on the news beginning with “President Snooki”?

Yeah, me too!

Thanks for reading!

Brian

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-18962 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-18962 Sun, 01 Feb 2015 00:50:48 +0000 ... hi brian. the day we have a president snooky all i’m gonna say to the prez is “bring me your niece please.”

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-18980 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-18980 Sun, 01 Feb 2015 02:15:09 +0000 Smitty the Great One I’m essentially doing the same thing Brian, no telling what will happen. I have anything better to do than pander to any female.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-18988 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-18988 Sun, 01 Feb 2015 02:38:45 +0000 harpo-my-"SON" Ghosting is great, I have been living with limited contact with society  for nine years. although I am not off grid I am debt free and the last background check for employment found nothing to report, not even a utility bill in my name. Welcome to the tattered edges of society and the forum.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19059 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19059 Sun, 01 Feb 2015 11:23:36 +0000 Brian Thanks for the replies all!  From what I’ve seen in my own life and the few of like mind with whom I associate, the debt issue takes precedence over being “on or off the grid.”  We see on tv (when I still owned a tv) these off the grid homes that cost as much as a regular home that millionaires build as toys, but how in debt are they to pay for it?  So it’s not really off the grid.  It’s glorified camping.  I was on another forum that decries the evils of usury and materialism, made a suggestion that, as much as possible, those of us who do the labor of society to produce its goods get out of debt “as much as possible” (ie, stop adding to the credit card demon wholesale, dial it back, and allocate a few bucks to attacking the principle till you get a real head of steam going to get out from under the thumb of this monster of a system) and was literally asked “Are you crazy?!” by a very high profile individual.  That’s right: For those of us who complain we’re enslaved by an unjust system, the suggestion that we at least begin sawing away at our chains and begin planning escape, is literally seen as “crazy” by the very people who claim to be leaders.

Yeah, I get that many men have obligations that still tie them to the matrix.  Especially those with a house a shrew of a wife to suffer until the kids are grown.  It’s an honorable man who can put up with that for the sake of his children, and I for one wouldn’t want to associate with a man who would leave his own children to suffer alone with a wife that even he can’t tolerate, when he is the only other decision-making member of the household.  But, said man also doesn’t have to go out and get himself deeper in debt with, say, a new sport car, to soothe his emotions and allow him to suffer his wife a bit longer.  Sure it takes restraint, but if you pay off what debt you can, reign in her spending, as much as possible, and begin planning your move as early as possible, you’ll be in so much better a position to ghost when the time comes.  And further, you make yourself an asset to your fellows rather than a liability.

I think so many of us have felt so isolated for so long that we’ve come to settle for the company of the few who are sort of a similar mind as us, and felt happy to have that much.  I for one am seeing that a new page is turning in my book of life and I’m coming into contact with some of the best people I could hope to know.  I’m becoming more selective in the company I keep.  These folks, and you guys on here, make me want to be better, more independent, healthier, learn more skills; simply put: a better member of the community.  Western civilization has become a spoiled child with unlimited resources and no supervision.  It is now incumbent upon us, the creators of those conveniences and the rightful administrators of justice, to take the toys away from the spoiled children, let them run out their temper tantrum, and wait for them to apologize and start on the path to good behavior patterns again. And not even so much for our own sake, though that alone is well worth it, but to do honor to all the work and sacrifice and risk taken by our predecessors who have gifted so much to us.

I think of the images of Socrates, Jesus Christ, Leonardo da Vinci, Isaac Newton, and other great men looking down on us from Heaven, marking what we do and what we work for, with the shared thought, “I dedicated my life to providing you with all this.  Now, what will you do to defend it, and add to it?”  I find that thought to be a powerful one.  And whether we take it literally or figuratively, it is in fact the state of things as they stand.  Now, how shall we proceed, and how much of our focus and energy does our cause deserve?  The answer for me is clear, and I think I’ve finally found a group of guys who agree.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19210 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19210 Sun, 01 Feb 2015 21:44:16 +0000 harpo-my-"SON" Amen and thumbs up.  The debtor is a servant of the lender. Tell that to anyone calling you crazy. We ghost mgtow have no leaders, because they can’t lead us without knowing where we are going and we are not voting for or talking to them. In time they will jump in front of a man going his own way and point the way, pretending to be a leader. We shall use the power of a ghost, walking through them disregarding what direction they point to.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19235 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19235 Sun, 01 Feb 2015 23:11:19 +0000 Stargazer Brian, you mentioned going Galt… I imagine there are quite a few of us here who have at least read Atlas Shrugged as the comparison has come up a few times.

Most, it seems, of the men I’ve read here, I’d say, are at the phase of declaring their independence from pussy, a huge step to be sure… of breaking the hold that the female body has on our hearts, minds and wallets… and there are a few who are ready to make the next step of declaring independence from consumer economics, an inevitable result, I think, when you consider that the vast majority of our consumption is aimed at chasing pussy in the first place.

I was just speaking with two guy friends of mine this week about this and here was the question I put to them:

Imagine there are three groups of men 1) regular guys spending their money trying to get laid, 2) men who have been caught by wives and children working two or three times as hard in order to pay someone else’s way through life and 3) wealthy individuals investing in the future of our society through business, industry and the creation of new goods and services.

All three types of men are uniformly reviled. Guys trying to get money to buy cars and apartments and clothes and pay for dates are considered pigs, husbands and ex husbands are treated like deadbeats and idiots and rich investors are treated like criminals… regardless of whether or not these men are actually any of these things, the vast majority of the females and simps who benefit from their efforts despise them (us).

So what percentage of these men “dropping out” would it take to crash our economy? How many fewer dollars being spent on Valentine’s day gifts, engagement rings, sports cars, fancy dinners, wedding parties, bigger houses, second automobiles, axe body spray, shots for hot chicks in bars, boob jobs for stripper girlfriends and capital investments to make all these pussy beggar goods and services possible would it take for the entire system to just go t~~~ up?

My guess is 5 percent. They say it only took 3 percent of the colonial population taking up arms to repel the British forces… I think it wouldn’t take much more than that of the key individuals who do the majority of the heavy investment and spending waking up one morning and saying “f~~~ it, not going to do it any more” and then sinking their ships, blowing up their mines, burning their oil fields and tearing up their railroads for the rest of society to be in very deep s~~~.

I’ve read a lot about what would cause The End Of The World As We Know It and while people have made noises about peak oil, terrorism, environmental collapse, killer meteors and even global pandemic, I think the failure of the consumer culture brought on by men going their own way could actually be the thing to make it happen.

If Ayn Rand were still alive I think she would be amazed to think that it may actually happen.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19238 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19238 Sun, 01 Feb 2015 23:32:43 +0000 Brian Doc, it’s like you read my mind, man!  Especially the 3% colonials/5% going Galt reference.  And it’s not like we’re just living single, going out to bars, still going into debt for cars and new homes and clothes and electronics.  We’re bowing out al-to-f~~~ing-gether!  Also, as we slow our spending, and at least in my case incomes (why work all the overtime if you don’t need all the money?), our tax contribution decreases, completely legally.  Modern businesses operate on a very very thin profit margin, and it takes all their corporate drones slaving away at full capacity just to keep up with producing the newest shiny WhatTheF~~~ so Dear John can finance it and stop Jane from nagging.  The engine is running in the red.  You don’t need to sling a monkeywrench in the works to mess it up.  Just skip a couple oil changes, so to speak, and everything seizes up.  And you and I are the ones who change the oil.

The thing is, when you look at all the middle management, quality teams, diversity committees, etc, etc, in companies today, at least half the “work force” is totally unnecessary.  It’s propped up by continuous “investment” (read: counterfeiting, though they prefer you call it “quantitative easing”).  That means the other half of the work force not only has to provide actual value to cover their own existence, but also surplus value to prop up all the funny money spent on the useless drones.  A very small percentage of us ghost, like you said, say 5%, and the rest have to work even harder to keep up, at some point which becomes literally impossible.  That’s when other men see what we’re doing and join us.  By then, guys like us are stable and can guide 2 or 3 or more for every one of us into getting set up independently.  In other words, when the time comes for other good men to run for cover, many of us will be there, waiting, providing them exactly the place to run to.  So the next time the usurers who run this scam of an economy attempt a depression to sieze even more real property, we’ll welcome it, and give as many of the real producers a place to go to bow out, and leave the money grubbers with their feminists and diversity committes and wish them luck.  Sarcastically of course.  I hope they all tear each other apart and we can get on with rebuilding a civilization worth living in.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19250 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19250 Mon, 02 Feb 2015 01:09:47 +0000 Stargazer You know, Brian, I forgot all about that whole segment of the corporate workforce that do not produce actual value but only serve to make people feel better about having to work for money.

Human Resources, sensitivity training, oversight committees, non-profit workplace advocacy groups, unions, occupational health and safety and government mandated, tax funded programs and services of all sorts… all of these functions increase the overhead of a typical business endeavor to the point where they are operating with those razor thin margins… and they would be the first things to get cut as businesses had to start running more lean due to deflation and the general shrinking of the economy… the same way that arts classes get cut when school budgets are reduced.

So you’d be looking at a situation where not only was there less value being produced on the one end, but the whole entitlement community getting their benefits cut on the other would create an environment of anger and desperation which would rapidly push the remaining value producers to double down on their efforts or walk too… and once you go past the knee on that curve, there’s no going back.

We came out of the first Great Depression because the men of America wanted to work and were willing to do any s~~~ty job they could get in order to be useful again. Not this time.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19260 <![CDATA[Reply To: "Ghosting" soon. Thanks for the term!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ghosting-soon-thanks-for-the-term/#post-19260 Mon, 02 Feb 2015 02:20:35 +0000 harpo-my-"SON" Brian and Doc great points, I so agree with all of it.  I am looking for work now and I miss the days when you could walk  in the front door and ask for a job. I found so many adds for construction work. I write the phone numbers down and start calling. I always ask The first question like this: “I am calling about your add for construction work. Is this the number of a construction company or a staffing agency?”  so far 7 out of 10 times it is a middleman staffing agency. I define my right to work this way: “I reserve  the exclusive right to contract my skills, services and time of life as I see fit.” The important word is exclusive. I am Excluding everyone else from contracting out, that which belongs to me. Every company that does its hiring through a staffing agency is violating my right to work. Equal opportunity employer bull. Staffing agencies just allow the company to violate your rights with impunity because you don’t work for them. Staffing agencies bring no value for the worker. This is becoming a trend that I don’t like. I will not work for a middle man. Let this stupid system fail.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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