I’m thinking of learning Spanish and moving to a South American Country like Panama. There, they’ll give you $40,000 just to start a business. That is way more than America, which gives nothing, but taxes me to pay for stuff I don’t believe in.

The catch is I have student debt and I want to pay it off. I don’t mind bringing the debt with me, but it would probably be harder to pay it off should I move to Panama. Still, I could just abandon it completely and let the tax payers foot the bill. After all, I was bullied in the schools they forced me to attend, and failed to discipline the manipulative bullies in the work place.

Israel, Sweden, Australia, and England, are definitely off the menu.

Any tips?

I really don;t know much about the social structure of Germany or the laws etc, but it has always appealed to me since I was a child visitor to the place.

I now have a couple of friends there and will endeavor to find out more. I suspect it’s just as leftist as other western countries but as I can “Ghost” just about anywhere, that just leaves the scenery as a factor! LOL.

cheers my friend

So I’ve been learning German for two months and am heading there in June for a 1 month ‘trial’ holiday. If all goes well I will make the move. The only issue with Germany is you can only get a permanent visa after working there for several years (under someone), investing 1 million EUR into a business or staying temporarily for 90 days at a time. If you know of any options to ghost in Germany, @AussieBloke I’d be interested to hear.

Ciao

This is obliviously because like most western countries the US is technically bankrupt and living on borrowed money and borrowed time. So something to consider would be how easy is it to get a second passport, what are the tax implications of moving to a new country, the ease of learning the language and is there a lively expat community already there.

You mentioned Panama and this could be a good choice as they are currently offering a second passport (citizenship) for a reasonable investment. http://internationalliving.com/countries/panama/visa/

It will really depend on where you to go and what type of government you want as all western governments are pretty much the same. Feminism will be the same.

Other notable places that i have thought about in the past were Costa Rica http://www.second-citizenship.org/permanent-residence/permanent-residence-in-costa-rica/      http://www.therealcostarica.com/, Nicaragua http://internationalliving.com/countries/nicaragua/live-in-nicaragua/ and in Europe Andorra.  http://www.livinginandorra.com/

The central american countries that have mentioned also do not charge tax for overseas income (so if you had a internet based business overseas you wouldn’t pay tax) Andorra is easy to set up a business and has only recently started charging tax at a low rate of 10%.

Personally as i live in europe i would pick Andorra as it is a short flight from my family.

A blog about overseas living and being tax efficient. http://nomadcapitalist.com/   This run by an american guy so shoould have good information for you.

http://www.singledudetravel.com/

http://blog.happierabroad.com/

It goes back to Clinton actually, since he opened the door to trade with China, but our businesses were not competitive. Back to the future, we bailed out the slovenly businesses. Can you believe that? Our government paid money to bad businesses. Just… I can’t find the words.

It goes further than that. Nixon didn’t really help either. He set up the economy to really suck. Sure, legalizing fructose as a sugar substitute stabilized food prices, but now we’re so bloody fat it’s not even funny. It’s hurting women more actually, since their estrogen makes the put on more fat. Now look at our options.

The issue goes back further still, with the New Deal, which fundamentally changed our government. They started allowing the government to make laws not explicitly forbidden by the constitution instead of expressly permitted. We also switched over from civil rights to human rights. Civil rights are like the right to free speech, but human rights are like the right to not go hungry. So, if I’m hungry, I’m to be fed. Maybe I should just get a job, right? No, you feed me, you privileged piece of s~~~.

The understanding of freedom has been warped since the founders of the constitution. We had a strong culture that valued freedom and responsibility. Women weren’t the same as they are today. They were strong too, and they didn’t want the vote. Marriages had equity and divorces weren’t common. Morals were taught and instilled. People knew boundaries and didn’t push it.

Since the constitution and the Revolutionary War, children had a knowledge of freedom instilled into them. They desired to fight and protect them. They had a minimalist government that only wanted to protect them and they depended on the free, critical thinking of the population to vote for what’s best for America.

Next came the bustling robust economy. Then industry exploded over night. After that, our stock market crashed and things went terrible. So, Hoover went out of office and Theodore Roosevelt took over. He expanded the government drastically. He put us into debt, and started all these agencies. We were going to recover had Theodore not done anything, since our economy did show signs of recovery. Sadly, the debt has only gotten worse, to a nightmarish 17 trillion. Some say it’s actually 70 trillion.

Now critical thinking is gone and the population is terribly corrupt. We actually think our narratives are going to work. The blaming and the thievery.

I’ve talked to this business developer who says our best talent is leaving the country. Many would actually come to America, get educated, and become doctors. Now, the government screws them. So, they leave. Except that the government pays 100K (or 300K, I’m not sure) to train doctors. So, we’re just dumping out money. If you want knee surgery, it’ll cost you 14K here, or 2.5K in another country. Might as well go and get some sunshine while you’re at it.

This is how things looked before Germany went Nazi.

I work outside of my country and if you have a passport to the big 5 (USA, Canada, Britain, Ireland, South Africa) you can pull an ESL job no problem. Without your passport you are completely worthless. I’ve worked in about 7 countries now and there is always a way to get you in if you have the right ‘credential’. You can easily survive in pretty well any non-English speaking country just by giving English lessons or working at schools. As I write this, I’m sitting in China.  Do not give up your passport, its your window to the world. Lots of Americans here in China making about $3000 per month and saving more than 3/4 of it. I have a 360, nice computer, ton of boardgames and a sweet projector setup in a 2 bedroom apartment. The apartment costs me about $450/month and food runs us around $300/month (but I usually only eat western). Utilities are around $20 every 3 months…

The job is simple enough and I have a bunch of expat friends, one of them actually pointed me to your forum. So hold on tight to that passport man..

Also you can go down to Mexico and live for $150/month for a decent sized 2 bedroom apartment. You would only need to work 6 months at home and the other 6 could be spent south of the border, soaking up the sun.

http://www.daveseslcafe.com <– goto International JOBS on the left hand side.