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This doesn’t hold water! HAHA, but this is a bit of an off shot on the ideal of how the limestone blocks were transported such long distances.

As of now, I’ll continue to roll with traditional thinking. A s~~~load of manpower on the ground doing the grunt work, and a higher level of ingenuity directing traffic, specifically when it comes to the actual building and placement of the stones that will eventually form the pyramid. If you’re off just a little bit, the whole structure is off by quite a lot.

And it’s entirely possible, and from some of what I have read, likely, that the Egyptians didn’t even build a large portion of the pyramids, and if they did, they were likely attempting to copy what was already there.

It’s actually a very deep topic that can potentially wander off into a whole bunch of areas, including the supernatural. But in the end, we are simply looking too far back in history to have definitive knowledge. We are left to speculate.

The Egyptians did use water in tiny channels to level the pyramid building site, but that’s about it as far as water and pyramids are concerned. And that leveling system was basically just the same thing they’d been doing for millennia leveling their fields for even irrigation, only in stone. And why were the Egyptians so good at leveling fields? Because they didn’t have any serious water lifting technology. Their fields had to be low and level or they would have been dry. The best they had was a bucket on a pole.

Then there’s the matter of buoyancy. In order to float a stone up to a height you must first lift an equivalent mass of water up to that height. Archimedes figured that one out. So they’d still be lifting tons and tons of weight, only in water form, which tends to drip and slosh and leak, unlike stone blocks. Even if they could somehow actually withstand the water pressure at the bottom (no f~~~ing way), and had a 100% efficient method of lifting water, this whole silly idea would require more work than just lifting the stones. And complicated systems that require more work than simple ones are a non-starter.

We know the Egyptians used big ramps. You can see the remnants of them in satellite pictures. We know they hauled the blocks on sledges, because we’ve found remnants of those too. We know they lubricated the sledges with Nile silt and oil because we have pictures on tomb walls showing the ancient Egyptians doing exactly that. And also because a bunch of elderly archaeologists decided to test that idea back in the ’70s and found that once the stones got moving on a nice layer of oily silt they would slide along like greased cats~~~ on glass such that a few old men could haul them around with ease.

We KNOW how the Egyptians built the pyramids. It’s no mystery.

The mystery is why people keep coming up with these crackpot hypotheses.

We KNOW how the Egyptians built the pyramids. It’s no mystery.

I wouldn’t make the argument that Egyptians didn’t build pyramids. I would make the argument that it’s entirely possible that they copied something that was already known to exist. There are ancient pyramids all over the world. There is a reason these sites are so guarded and secret. There’s a reason militaries seeks to gain control of these kinds of sites. It’s because it’s ALL a mystery. It all goes back to Mystery Babylon. Hidden knowledge.

Check out the scientific studies regarding pyramids being used as potential electrical conductors. Again, hidden knowledge that we are only beginning to understand.

Why is it that the mortar used on the Great Pyramid of Giza is stronger than anything we can replicate today despite being analyzed in depth by the most modern methods known to man? The mortar alone is stronger than the stone made to build the structure, and is the main reason that despite it being the largest (claimed) pyramid known to us, it stands while the rather large majority of the rest of them all corrode and fall apart. Again, hidden knowledge.

There are all kinds of places to go on this topic. It’s not cut and dry by any means when we are going this far back into history and some of it isn’t even documented, such as the hundreds of pyramids in China that they don’t allow anyone access to. Why? Because it’s hidden knowledge, that’s why. Whatever they find, they are going to keep and exploit.

This world is an illusion. People make claims. History is written by the victors, which means a lot of the time, you’re only getting one side. It’s deeper than what the surface shows you.

This world is an illusion. People make claims. History is written by the victors, which means a lot of the time, you’re only getting one side. It’s deeper than what the surface shows you.

I agree and also with the fact that there are things that are mysterious about how some of these civilisations were able to understand some laws that we don’t understand living in modern times and if someone tries to do it, they either get shut down or get bought.

The world has many pyramids, and many are along the same latitude.

I wouldn’t make the argument that Egyptians didn’t build pyramids. I would make the argument that it’s entirely possible that they copied something that was already known to exist. There are ancient pyramids all over the world.

Do you mean they didn’t invent pyramids? Well obviously they didn’t do it uniquely, but they did work them out all on their own. How do we know this? Because we can see their prototypes and failures and incomplete projects all up and down the Nile. From the step pyramid to the bent pyramid to the broken pyramid to the red pyramid and in between until they finally got it all together at Giza.

Of course other primitive societies also built pyramids or pyramid like buildings. None of them copied any others though. Why? Because if you want to build tall, but only have primitive technology, you can’t build anything but a pyramid. You have to make it narrow as you go up or it will collapse. A pyramid is basically a pile of rock with a tiny bit of added geometry. It’s actual towers that are rare in ancient cultures, not pyramids.

There is a reason these sites are so guarded and secret.

Two reasons, actually. Firstly so that tourists and vandals don’t f~~~ them up as they so often have in the past. Khufu’s sarcophagus used to be a wonder of precision stone carving until the tourists got at it. Now it’s just a dull, busted up rock. And the second reason they’re guarded is to charge admission. Can’t let anyone see without paying first.

Check out the scientific studies regarding pyramids being used as potential electrical conductors.

None of those studies are very scientific. More crackpottery.

Why is it that the mortar used on the Great Pyramid of Giza is stronger than anything we can replicate today despite being analyzed in depth by the most modern methods known to man?

It isn’t. Seriously where are you getting this stuff? What mortar they used is barely worthy of the term “mortar”. It’s crumbly worthless s~~~; basically mud, limestone dust, and sand. At best. And they didn’t even know to burn the limestone to make lime. It’s actually a little difficult to find any mortar in the pyramids because most of the exposed mortar that would be visible has largely washed away long since. Because it’s so s~~~ty. The pyramids are held together by gravity, not mortar, hence their pyramid shape as I mentioned above.

despite it being the largest (claimed) pyramid known to us, it stands while the rather large majority of the rest of them all corrode and fall apart.

In the Nile Valley at least it’s because Khufu’s pyramid was the first one where they finally worked out how to do it. Most of the collapsed pyramids are earlier attempts where they hadn’t worked everything out yet or were never completed. And it’s the largest because it essentially bankrupted the country. Later attempts were smaller because they couldn’t afford to make them big anymore. Khufu’s successor Jeffrey (f~~~ if I can remember how to spell his name) built a much smaller pyramid than his father, but tried to cheat by starting it on a much higher plateau. Even with his less ambitious project he couldn’t afford to complete it before he died. It took quite a while for the country to build up grain stores to where Khafre could attempt anything like as big as Khufu. After that pyramids only got smaller as later pharaoh’s found they had better uses for what little grain stores they had or tried to conserve resources by experimenting with easier building techniques.

It’s not cut and dry by any means when we are going this far back into history and some of it isn’t even documented, such as the hundreds of pyramids in China that they don’t allow anyone access to. Why? Because it’s hidden knowledge, that’s why.

But it is cut and dry, at least for Egypt. Again we KNOW how the pyramids were built. And why don’t the Chinese allow access to their pyramids? Well partly for the reasons I stated above, protection and admission fees, but mostly because, well, it’s China. And China is communist. They don’t have the archaeological resources the west does, so they aren’t really in much of a position to excavate properly themselves, but they sure as f~~~ don’t want any credit for any discoveries going to anyone who isn’t Chinese, and more importantly approved by the party, so they keep western archaeologists the f~~~ out for the most part. They also don’t want any potentially embarrassing discoveries getting out without strict party censure. They were extremely unhappy when the world learned that ancient Chinese dynasties practiced human sacrifice as part of their funeral rites. The Chinese government has an official state history / archeology they like to promote and something as barbaric as human sacrifice was not part of it.

The Chinese aren’t dragging their feet on archeology because they’re afraid something like alien technology or ancient secrets might get out. They’re simply worried about any more uncomfortable truths being discovered.

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Doesn’t account for the accuracy in geometric design.

We know how they managed that, too. The ancient Egyptians were very VERY good at laying out the geometry of their fields. And they had a lot of practice what with the Nile floods wiping out the markers every year, forcing them to start over. Laying out the pyramids was simple in comparison. And we know they didn’t use any complicated technology or maths to do that, because we’ve found where they laid out the plan view of the Great Pyramid in one to one scale, and with a small mirror we can look between the stones to see the layout lines and notes used during construction to make sure everything was as it should be.

It’s amazing what can be done with just some sighting poles and tight strings and a wheel or two. Oh, and a lot of patience to follow a star as it transits across the sky.

There’s nothing strange or mysterious about how they built the pyramids. The real story is why they would do such a damn fool thing in the first place. The various Egyptian religions were odd, to say the least.

The world has many pyramids, and many are along the same latitude.

Only because the climate in those latitudes allows for primitive cultures to grow the crop surpluses necessary to fund such things. The people in higher latitudes have enough trouble just keeping themselves warm and fed through the winter, and those nearer the equator have things like malaria to worry about.