MGTOWDeath of discourse – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 12:20:47 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/page/316/#post-61271 <![CDATA[Death of discourse]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/page/316/#post-61271 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:46:35 +0000 JollyMisanthrope Message forums have become a f~~~ing joke these days. You can barely find any that don’t try and stifle the dissent of people who can’t stand political correctness and all of its trappings. C~~~s can spew the most insane bulls~~~ with impunity and the minute you speak up you get mods flocking to the post to warn you.

I joined a fantasy writing website to discuss my story ideas and discuss writing in general and it’s chalk full of these SJW’s that think it’s horrific that the fantasy genre is too “white” and “racist”. Where the hell do they think the fantasy genre originated from?

There’s little to no asylum from all this garbage. You’d think there would be people out there that think and behave like adults and can keep their politics in check.

To add one more point, it sickens me to the extreme that the artistic community has become so toxic and chalk full of hacks that have no business calling themselves authors, painters or anything else along those lines. I’m no Hemingway but my story ideas are at least based on integrity and not trying to write dumb downed s~~~ that assumes the audience is just a bunch of imbeciles that need their hands held and everything explained to them.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61282 <![CDATA[Reply To: Death of discourse]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61282 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 08:07:12 +0000 Keymaster ( I’m nodding in agreement )

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61300 <![CDATA[Reply To: Death of discourse]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61300 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 08:36:46 +0000 KingOfTheSea True that, man. Especially the second part. The entitlement of some people in the “artistic community” just makes me sick. I’ve tried to put together some pitches for independent comic publishers so I can get my name out there, be published and every artist I’ve ever talked to, hack or skilled but not published says the same thing: “What are you paying me?” Uh. Nothing. You get paid if we get hired, same as me. Why would you get paid while I have to work and lose money paying you?

I hear you on the people that think fantasy is too “racist”. Part of the reason I appreciate Game of Thrones is that it hasn’t been pulling punches. World’s going to s~~~ because people are worried about offending someone.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61304 <![CDATA[Reply To: Death of discourse]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61304 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 08:59:03 +0000 JollyMisanthrope

True that, man. Especially the second part. The entitlement of some people in the “artistic community” just makes me sick. I’ve tried to put together some pitches for independent comic publishers so I can get my name out there, be published and every artist I’ve ever talked to, hack or skilled but not published says the same thing: “What are you paying me?” Uh. Nothing. You get paid if we get hired, same as me. Why would you get paid while I have to work and lose money paying you? I hear you on the people that think fantasy is too “racist”. Part of the reason I appreciate Game of Thrones is that it hasn’t been pulling punches. World’s going to s~~~ because people are worried about offending someone.

Definitely agree on the artists wanting to be paid up front. I can see paying someone for concept art if you are in the brainstorming stages, but then it becomes a big legal quagmire, even if they give you the rights to it. All of sudden you get published and they decide to have a change of heart.

No way in hell I could ever put a team together to create a graphic novel, or at least a few chapters to try and sell to a publisher, unless I won the lottery.

If there’s one thing I wish I had started working on when I was a kid it would be learning to draw. I’d have a lot of the work done by now, instead I’m at the mercy of other people if I really want to pursue a project.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61314 <![CDATA[Reply To: Death of discourse]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61314 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:30:19 +0000 KingOfTheSea

 If there’s one thing I wish I had started working on when I was a kid it would be learning to draw. I’d have a lot of the work done by now, instead I’m at the mercy of other people if I really want to pursue a project.

I’ve been trying to teach myself. I’ve gotten better, but I’m a long way from being “professional”.

The fiction world has become wayyy too hostile of anything that isn’t “PC”, though. Feel like all the women are taking over which sucks because for the most part, they’ve put out s~~~.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61315 <![CDATA[Reply To: Death of discourse]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61315 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:31:32 +0000 Zuberi Tau In my spare time, I enjoy writing video game concepts, character bios and dialogue for my cartoon projects.

The protagonists in my concepts are usually men of various races.

Sci fi and cyberpunk are my favorite genres.

 

 

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61329 <![CDATA[Reply To: Death of discourse]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61329 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:51:50 +0000 RoyDal

You’d think there would be people out there that think and behave like adults and can keep their politics in check.

There are. The mob shouts them down. “Look! An individual! Burn him at the stake!”

I’m no Hemingway but my story ideas are at least based on integrity and not trying to write dumb downed s~~~ that assumes the audience is just a bunch of imbeciles that need their hands held and everything explained to them.

You may have to self-publish at first, just to get around the walls erected by the ‘legit’ media. Whatever you do, let us know when and where to find it.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61412 <![CDATA[Reply To: Death of discourse]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61412 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 14:47:54 +0000 IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) I would say, generally speaking, a person who is an “artist”, or does creative work to express a thought, or view of the world (think even poetry or fiction) generally provides little value to the world, unless it is in a context of a community that shares the artist’s values, so the work of the artist works as propaganda for the artist in question.  Outside of that, unless it provides entertainment value and can be sold as entertainment, the artist will end up feeling they are irrelevant to the world.  So, they will go on these crusades to think they change the world by their art, in order to not feel irrelevant.  Left with mass rejection normally, unless tied into a community that reinforces their own biases (similar outcome), they end up becoming an end in themselves, and will fight tooth and nail against anyone who disagrees with their world view.  Their only chance at relevance is to be able to be the top influencer in culture, or they starve and face meaninglessness.  The outsider also, in the group with shared values, also threatens their point of being.

I am personally troubled that these individuals have infiltrated videogames with their agendas also.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61496 <![CDATA[Reply To: Death of discourse]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61496 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 17:22:08 +0000 Dakota

You can barely find any that don’t try and stifle the dissent of people who can’t stand political correctness and all of its trappings.

No doubt.  Even my sister has observed that the straight, white man is the most reviled creature in existence.  Being reviled is no longer enough.  A straight, white man must also HATE himself and openly tell others that he is ASHAMED to have been born to this condition.  This last point is where you draw the ire of your peers.

So write your next story with a Strong White Female (Commander), a black man as second in command (First Officer), a gay man playing some second tier leadership position with the Commander’s ear, and an Asian/Indian/Middle Eastern female as Chief Engineer…and your stories will be a resounding success.  Oh, and don’t forget the EVIL straight white man who wants to kill all things good and replace with death and destruction.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61515 <![CDATA[Reply To: Death of discourse]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/death-of-discourse/#post-61515 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 17:55:48 +0000 I totally agree with the OP. I used to be really into writing Erotic Role Plays and was a member of a few forums for such. It was the same there in the Political Boards, almost everyone had a Left Wing insanity and they all howled down anyone who disagreed often creating weird and strange “Debate Rules” so they could continue to control the language of the debate even more.

The problem with the arts community and for that matter most younger people now days is they have all been through College or University and have been brainwashed by Left Wing politics and all it’s hypocrisy so they are merely drones, the equivalent of religious zealots if you like who just parrot garbage that they have been taught and accept it as unquestionable fact.

What I have noticed though is forums have been dying for the past 5 or more years, they were pretty active at one point, but with many Site Leaders who act like little dictators and their psychotic mod teams as well as members who seem to get away with breaking the rules etc It appears many people are just over it and so the number of forums dwindle.

As per usual I sit back and laugh.

 

 

 

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