The reason I am asking is as man I do meet business women and they think like men and I don’t mind talking to them.  Some times I wonder Am I going too far by avoiding all women or is there exceptions.  Keep in mind I am not interested in having a girl friend or have sex with her, just as friend.  I am not sure which way to think about this.  Any MGTOW men hang out with women as friends.

Please share your views on this.  Can a MGTOW man be a close friend with a women?  Yes or No, why or why not.  Thanks for sharing.

Unless she picks up the phone to call you on your birthday or treats you as well as your male friends (no woman ever did that) then she’s not your friend. I have a friend who calls me every 2-3 weeks just to say hi and because we haven’t hung out for a while. So I grab my jacket and we go have fish and chips – or something. That’s a friend. He will ask about my car and want to see the engine, and then we stand there for a few minutes talking about the car, the horsepower, how fast it goes etc. When in the history of f~~~ did a female ever take interest in anything that wasn’t herself?

You can’t be friends with someone who’s obsessed with taking about themselves.
If the subject is not HER, women are “bored” – all the f~~~ing time.

When a woman “friend” goes out with you she’s so obsessed about the no sex going on that you just can’t have a conversation with this person. Don’t kid yourself. In her mind, you’re not a “friend”…. you’re a “guy she’s not f~~~ing”.

( See the difference? )

When someone asks her “so who was the guy I saw you at the movies with?”, she doesn’t say “His name is Ray and he’s a blast to hang out with”. No. She totally obsessed with letting everyone know that she’s NOT having sex with you. “Oh he’s just a friend” – emphasis on “JUST”. JUST a friend. She doesn’t even tell them your NAME!!

I don’t introduce my friend as “JUST” a friend. I say “This is Andy”. I don’t make a big deal out of telling other people that I am NOT sucking his dick. Only women do that.

• “Oh he’s JUST a friend”
• “Oh it’s not like that…”
• “He’s not my boyfriend”
• “Just a guy I know”
• “Don’t get any ideas”
• “He’s a great guy he just doesn’t do it for me”.

She’s totally obsessed with telling herself (and everyone) that she’s NOT f~~~ing you. I don’t want some chick talking about me like that. As far as women are concerned there are only 2 kinds of guys in the world. Guys she IS f~~~ing…. and guys she is NOT f~~~ing. And that’s why you can’t be “friends” with chicks.

In her mind, you’re not a friend.
You’re *just* a guy she’s not f~~~ing.

You can’t be friends with someone who’s obsessed with taking about themselves.
If the subject is not HER, women are “bored” – all the f~~~ing time.

That’s it! My god that’s it. That is it right there. Jesus almighty more perfect words were never spoken.

F~~~ , I’m dying over here.

I am the same with Bard where there is an age gap so there isn’t any awkwardness or anything like that. For me being MGTOW is about relationships and pointing out to dumb feminist women their hypocrisy but that doesn’t mean I can’t get on with them

Otherwise I get along with them just fine., but it’s always an unspoken understanding she’s a she, and Im a he and we always end up talking about her. Now if a conversation comes up, I just ask her something about herself and just shut up and let her blab.

The first question out of a female’s mouth is ALWAYS about “are you seeing anyone?”, “who are you dating?”, “when are you getting married?”. If it were possible to be friends with women they would first have to show an interest in something neutral. But it’s ALWAYS relationship / sex s~~~ – and about HER.

When I hear guys say “oh yeah man totally friends with like 10 chicks” , no offense meant here, but it reads like complete bulls~~~. Leykis has a theory the guys are just friends with her because they want to nail her. That seems more realistic to me.