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Brave, stupid, irresponsible?

Steve — Thu, 21 May 2015 08:00:20 +0000

I didn’t know MGTOW existed until a few weeks ago. I didn’t know that’s what I was or there were others like me. Sincerely thank you for this group.

I might have done something a bit stupid and I want opinions from others. Don’t hold back or sweeten anything up.

No long horror story intro, I’ve had everything from cheating, lying, fake illness, fake suicide, false rape allegations, house smashed, car smashed, career destroyed, slapped, scratched and a knife frenzy.

I’ve always known women were crazies from a very young age. That’s ok I’ll get on with my education, career, travelling, financial security, student and housing loans paid off etc. I enjoyed f~~~ing around with the youngest tightest girls I could get my hands on and then leave after the new car feeling wore off.

I was working overseas in a good job and playing around with a couple of young admin girls for sport. S~~~ hit the fan and I got dragged into Human Resources and got a spanking but kept my job. Both girls then joined forces with rest of females and some manginas and basically made me public enemy #1. “How could you be f~~~ing those lovely innocent young girls you… you… man pig?”. I didn’t bother mentioning that one of the innocent girls liked to be spat at in the face (open mouth) and could only come if I choked her a little. The other was living with a guy and liked nothing better than swallowing me on a Friday afternoon before skipping home to her man. Big wet kisses all around.

Anyway I stuck it for another month and walked away from that job.

I had some time off and assessed my next move. I was bored of f~~~ing the crazies, I was 34 and I really wanted a son. I could offer a calm rational home, financial security, a healthy lifestyle and other than the f~~~ing young crazies some good moral values.

I figured I knew the enemy and could handle it. So I searched for a younger virgin girl who had at least a stable semi normal family background. Fast forward two years and I’m married and have a very healthy son who is just over a year old.

Yes his mother is a crazy. Yes she tests me constantly. Yes my 1 year old son even looks at me oddly when she’s on her hamster wheel. Yes I still think i’m red pill and MGTOW and all. But now I have a son. He’s got my UK passport, his mother lives with me in my house in my home country. She does not have a UK passport (spouse visa UK 5 year path – thank you British government!).

My son is the single best thing that has happened to me and our interactions (hanging out) get better each week. I don’t feel like it was the wrong decision but have a niggling feeling its going to come back and bite me one day.

Can I still call myself MGTOW? Any other men done this / in a similar situation? Any advice on what to watch out for in the years ahead?

**apologies for the shocking formatting, I’m not sure what happened there**

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ILiveAgain — Thu, 21 May 2015 08:23:56 +0000

Sounds to me like a split personality. One one hand …. in your mind youre mgtow but your actions say blue pill.

There were ‘other ways’ of getting a son but you let your little head do the thinking.

You knew the score with crazy but still went ahead …. WFT was up with that?

I dont know what to say to help. You have glued yourself solid in this.

The UK is one of the worst places to be in. If she f~~~s off home …. with your kid …. you are f~~~ed.

She will fight for your house and stuff from her new home, have your son …… which she will use as a weapon …. and the UK system will aid and fund her.

I think we need better minds than mine to help you …… guys?

WTF were you thinking?

Said with love and a big boot 🙂

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RoyDal — Thu, 21 May 2015 08:45:41 +0000

You are in the circumstances you’re in. There are no do overs in real life. Now, what to do about it?

Here’s what works for me (and you should know I’ve never been married and have no children).

Teach your son things. Teach him the things he needs to survive and succeed in his life’s journey. Here is a list of the things I wish I had known or done as a school age boy, and some I did.
* Self defense. Judo, boxing, or whatever accepts youngsters and happens to offer classes nearby. (If I had a child, the question would which martial art, and not if they feel like it.)
* Basic sports skills, swimming, catching, throwing, any and all hand-eye coordination activities dad and junior can do together. Make it fun!
* The lessons in the book The 48 Laws of Power, by Robert Greene, not because I would ever want to be that way, but because I need to spot people manipulating me early on.
* Teach him chess, poker, and other games that require skill, mainly because your son will remember doing things with his dad all his days. (I do!! But I don’t remember any of the TV shows we watched.)
* Help him with his schoolwork. Sit down with him every school day and go over his homework and lessons. (Ditto doing things with dad.)
* Pithy one liners from the Stoic philosophers, with emphasis on making the best of one’s circumstances without wishful thinking.

EDIT: My parents, bless their hearts, made sure my sister and I knew the basics of cooking and sewing. This enhanced our well being as adults no end.
In case I haven’t flogged it hard enough: Self Defense skill is Mandatory. I only wish I had started lessons as a six year old. My life would have been far happier.

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Steve — Thu, 21 May 2015 10:10:50 +0000

Thanks for the kick up the arse. I needed that.

My twisted logic was:

1. I wanted a son with my genetics (so no adoption).

2. Had the baby in UK so he has a British passport like his dad – she can’t just f~~~ off and take him overseas without my permission.

3. All my assets and house paid off before she came along – and hidden in different places.

I know it sounds messed up but I really can give the kid a stable home and have a lot of time to give to him. If it (she) gets too crazy and starts ramping up the drama in the next few years and we divorce I’m prepared to raise him on my own. For that early stage in his life all he wanted was his mother and her milk.

For now things aren’t too bad and I’m squashing every challenge from her as soon as it comes.

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Crazy Canuck — Thu, 21 May 2015 10:48:58 +0000

Hey Bro focus on having a happy life. Try not to let people drag you down. They do this because their life is miserable. I’m not just saying that that’s simply a fact. Technically you can’t be a MGTOW because you’re still married but that doesn’t mean you can’t belong to the manosphere. We will treat you like one of our brothers as long you’re a red pill man.

You might want to watch this video.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

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Long shot — Thu, 21 May 2015 11:14:06 +0000

Yeah I see the logic behind it and there is a back up plan in place. However, you are a braver man than me. And some of these threads do sometimes get a little bitchy for my liking.

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Steve — Thu, 21 May 2015 11:26:29 +0000

Thanks man and don’t worry I like cold hard opinions. I find them to the point and useful.

80 to 90% of the guys in my circle of friends, at work and in my family sugar things up way too much about their wives /women/crazies.

Its f~~~ing awesome having a son, just have to endure some hardship now and again, and if the hamster wheel comes off completely at least I have a contingency plan. I’ve read some other guys stories on here and the positions they’ve been put in – it boils my p~~~.

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Steve — Thu, 21 May 2015 11:32:46 +0000

RoyDal – I think along the same lines as you. Don’t worry I’ll teach him as much as I can about everything. I’ve done my career slaving so now I can invest my time in him.

I’ve been looking at Chess sets already even though he’s only 1…

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

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RoyDal — Thu, 21 May 2015 12:19:41 +0000

You are welcome, and I wish you and your son the best! He is lucky to have a dad like you.

I enjoyed this book. It’s a best seller for good reason.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Darth-Vader-Star-Wars-Chronicle/dp/145210655X/
Darth Vader and Son (Star Wars (Chronicle), by Jeffrey Brown

I am giving this chess set to all the kids in my family. I do not know if it’s available in the UK.
http://www.amazon.com/Yamie-Chess-School-Assistant-Supplemental/dp/B00JC2E5J4/
Yamie Chess School Assistant: K-8 Supplemental Math Learning Toy, by Yamie Chess

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jack reacher — Thu, 21 May 2015 17:11:09 +0000

I will never be in your situation, but I wonder if it is worth consulting a lawyer at this point, just in case she tries to pull some s~~~ and take the boy away. You may do a consult and start documenting the crazy behavior so you have a history with back up on her suitability as a parent, and that possibly she had been planning some sort of exit with the boy.

I know it sounds a little antagonistic, but also be realistic. You have 50% chance of it not working and 65% chance or more that she will initiate the departure, and will likely get the boy, so at least be prepared. I mean, you are saying she is crazy after only 2 years together, what is the chance it will get better? Especially with the experiences you have pointed out in your past dealings with women.