MGTOWBait and Switch – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 20:25:55 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/page/527/#post-2009 <![CDATA[Bait and Switch]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/page/527/#post-2009 Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:51:37 +0000 Robert How many of you have looked at the pictures, and then met the woman only to find her to be completely different? This technique is very tricky from a psychological stand point. I spent some time thinking about it. Here’s what I’ve come up with.

First they show you old pictures. These pictures were from a time in their life before all of the crisps and mac n’ cheese.

Next, they mirror you and your beliefs, talk you up real good. That way you match up with all of these “dimensions of compatibility” and s~~~.

Then, when you meet them you’re faced with a dilemma. For me this dilemma has vanished because I have broken through the moral nut of this. See they want you to think that having preferences is “shallow” I’m not f~~~ing fat. That avatar is a current picture of me. So how could it possibly be shallow to want a woman who is at least a size 12 or under? It’s not. Moving forward I demand this of any woman who wishes to partake in little Rob’s company.

After you confront this they go into all the mind games of how the number on the scale doesn’t equate to their value as a person. Then in the next breath she’s complaining that I don’t wanna have sex with her. It’s interesting how they can reconcile the two things. It comes down to abstracting the weight away from the obesity. The earth’s gravitational pull has nothing to do with having t~~~ on your back and a belly that hangs over your snatch, honey. I can’t say that else we go into the realm of name calling. That still doesn’t remove the truth from it. She could weigh 400 pounds but if she was built nicely I wouldn’t notice. The weight is irrelevant. That is the technique though. She told me I need to stop chasing an “ideal”. In reality, she’s the only woman anywhere near her size that I’ve attempted to f~~~. Moped. Sigh….

Then we have to add in “fat shaming”. Somehow in this politically correct bulls~~~ time we live, this has become bad. How the f~~~ is it bad to point out to someone that when their heart is coated in 5 pounds of fat that it taxes their circulatory system? The extra weight creates all sorts of health problems, it’s taxing on your back, the bad food choices that lead to the obesity also bring on adult onset diabetes. It all comes back to making good choices for yourself: self f~~~ing respect. If a woman doesn’t respect herself, how the f~~~ can she respect me or anyone, for that matter?

Then from there they transition into the anorexic chick looking in the mirror, see herself as being fat, when in reality she is dangerously underweight. Apples and oranges in my opinion. What about all the super heroes and comic book guys being all crazy buff? They all look like they’re on steroids. That’s not attainable either for most. You just have to have the sense to realize that and live your life for you.

What it boils down to is that she needs a guy who likes fat chicks, a chubby chaser if you will. As soon as she admits that happiness and a life full of crisps and sex will ensue. šŸ˜‰

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2015 <![CDATA[Reply To: Bait and Switch]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2015 Tue, 05 Aug 2014 17:10:04 +0000 Murve I hear you on this one brother. However, although I prefer healthy females, I actually also like fat girls because they are more willing in the bedroom. But they are so quick to disqualify themselves to the idea of having sex because they have such a low self esteem. To me a vagina is a vagina, it’s better than masturbating so I don’t really care what surrounds a vagina when it comes to sex as long as she wants sex with me and doesn’t treat it like she’s doing me a “favour”.

I’d never start a relationship with a woman who had only her vagina to offer me and I keep my distance when we’re not near a bed. It’s not shallow, it’s just that she’s never taken the time to develop herself as a person or even try to really understand what the world is about or step out of her messed up reality. I don’t feel like getting to know her world because I would probably be entering a world of insecurity, shame and despair and I am not a therapist. And if I was, I wouldn’t do that s~~~ for free..

I’ll never be a slave to attractive women again, there’s plenty more vagina without having to jump through hoops to get it and there are always prostitutes if fat chicks don’t do it for you. They are cheaper in the short run.

[EDIT] For me, fat chicks have to have a pretty face and filthy mind or the deal is off..

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2020 <![CDATA[Reply To: Bait and Switch]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2020 Tue, 05 Aug 2014 18:19:19 +0000 Robert I guess the largeness isn’t my biggest problem. It’s the lies. She said all this stuff that over time vaporized. For instance, she supports feminism even though the laws that are designed to screw the man over were turned on her by her ex husband. She refuses to admit that this outcome came to her as a direct result of feminism. There’s so much more…. I might have been able to handle one thing, but there was a huge list.

She moved in. I offered because she had a problem with the room she was renting. The landlord wasn’t paying the mortgage and about to be kicked out. We were getting along so well so it seemed ok at the time. I knew she came with a cat. Later on her ex kicked her daughter out. I let her daughter move in. Then, after a few months she let’s her daughter get a cat. I found out by seeing the cat in the upstairs window. She never even consulted me. I can go on. šŸ˜‰

Once you give them a few bucks they expect it.They become entitled to your money after that. She was no different. Whenever I had something I need to talk to her about that i didn’t like, she’d storm off and instead of having a discussion. I don’t have time for this s~~~ was the line I think…..

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2027 <![CDATA[Reply To: Bait and Switch]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2027 Tue, 05 Aug 2014 20:02:48 +0000 IggyThunders Yeah. The weight thing is a huge turn off. Especially when they just straight up lie about it! I dont mind healthy/full figured looking chicks myself. Think Christina Hendricks from Mad Men or Anna Nicole Smith in her prime. Hell, think any chick out of any Russ Meyer film! Even if they didnt have big t~~~ big gals can still look hot as Hell. That being said, I really hate how the word “Curvy” has been totally hijacked by women. ‘Im not fat. Im curvy’. Riiight. In one of my old profiles I specifically wrote “Curvy does not equal round! Curvy does not equal obese!” You should have seen some of the hate mail I got for that one. It was a riot. My favorite one was an email and excuse I got from one particular moo cow who accused me of fat shaming. “Many people are obese because they cant afford wholesome foods or are uneducated.” Bulls~~~ and more bulls~~~! If you are so f~~~ing stupid that as a full grown adult you cant figure out what is fattening and unhealthy then you shouldnt even be able to form a cogent sentence, let alone figure out how to operate a computer. And the affordability argument is so lame to anyone whith a modicum of grey matter and logic it doesnt even warrant a response. The flipside of this is all the broads who turn food into a political and philosophical statement. Mostly for the benefit of their circle of friends. Everything is a competition with these types to see who can be the most tolerant, caring, enlightened, nonjudgmental and all around Christlike figure amongst their peers. This is why women getting the vote has been a disaster for the country. For the most part they vote strictly on emotion. Reason and logic means that there will always be winners and losers. And to women, this is intolerable. But I am now digressing into a whole other kettle of fish.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2029 <![CDATA[Reply To: Bait and Switch]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2029 Tue, 05 Aug 2014 20:51:55 +0000 Murve Rob, that sounds like a f~~~ed up state of affairs. The way I see it is that women expect a man to care for them, especially when they have children. They claim looking after a child is so difficult and they can’t get a job. Feminism strikes again. Most recent ex-wives are more likely to gain the kids after a divorce, even if many of which, are ill equipped to properly look after them or can not afford to.

So ex-wives are getting the kids and using the excuse that they can’t get a job to look after them, therefore relying on men to look after them. Not to mention child support, even when a man can’t get access to his children. So feminism places the power in the woman’s hands and the responsibility in the man’s hands and women believe this is their right.

I’m deviating here.. If a man calls another man fat, it’s called honesty or a joke. If a man calls a woman fat, he’s called a chauvinist.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2043 <![CDATA[Reply To: Bait and Switch]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2043 Tue, 05 Aug 2014 23:32:36 +0000 Crazy Canuck @murve Why don’t you just date cougars? There are skinny hot looking cougars.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2066 <![CDATA[Reply To: Bait and Switch]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2066 Wed, 06 Aug 2014 11:45:52 +0000 Murve Yea that’s a good idea! I’m actually off to Germany to spend a week getting a cheap holiday with a 43 year old “cougar”, well an older woman with a career, intelligence and still looking pretty good. I don’t know if she constitutes for a cougar but I’ll take anything to be honest haha!

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2444 <![CDATA[Reply To: Bait and Switch]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-2444 Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:29:21 +0000 Cap285 That’s the only way they can get dates. I’ve pulled up to dates and kept on driving.

This especially sucks at my age. Most women wear two tons of make-up and adamantium re-enforced undergarments to make themselves look presentable.

I’ve seen some train wrecks when the clothes come off.

Fuck this planet.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-8535 <![CDATA[Reply To: Bait and Switch]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-8535 Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:08:01 +0000 johnconnor777 We all have been there… one suggestion I learnt, is to always text her a couple recent photos of her from her cellphone in return, or do a mini facetime/skype chat…. if she gives you a lot of excuses like “I don’t take a lot of photos”, “I don’t like to show myself online”, etc… run! Most women love taking pictures of themselves and they have a million, if they don’t want to send you one more and all their photos are from the neck up, you know you are going to meet up a fatty.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-8538 <![CDATA[Reply To: Bait and Switch]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/bait-and-switch/#post-8538 Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:52:02 +0000 liventhedream I agree, its not being fat that’s the problem. Its the blatant lying about something so obvious, and the sense of entitlement or delusion that goes along with that lie.

I’ve seen this effect in full force on EH, when they are seriously trying to get a LTR or marriage. Aerial photos are very popular, alongĀ  with shots where they strike a pose facially at an angle with their cheeks sucked in.

I recently met one girl that pulled this, she was pretty much the opposite of everything she listed once we met. Even after several phone conversations up too the meet it was like night and day. She listed herself as non-smoker, never married, patient, caring, intellectual and into physical activities. Her pics showed the obvious trick shots but where so good they still hid the proverbial tip of the fat iceberg. Sucked in cheeks, face only shots, and one areal photo (wearing a black outfit) to obscure the weight.

When we met though, she was probably twice my weight, smoked like a chimney,Ā admitted to beingĀ divorced,Ā andĀ did not have a patientĀ temperament. Its as if theseĀ women list who they want to be as opposed to who they actually are….wait that’s exactly what there doing. She also ate like a pig.

And that’s whatĀ kills it for most women, they have almost lost all capacity to be honestĀ and real about who they are and what there expectations should be. Its like they think once they get you into a date, then you will have to over look the weight for fear of being labeledĀ Ā an asshole (they couldn’t possibly think they will loose all the weight the few days before they meet you….can they?).

Again, its not a question really of weight, its the blatant obvious lying. Like we should just deal with it because “women just lie I guess, derpy derp, thanks for choosing me honey!”.

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