To be clear, I don’t want to ‘hate’ on anyone who may be aspergers – in fact I find the diagnosis to be useless. But the idea of aspergers has connotations that have come to be accepted in a business logic fashion -> this == that, aspergers == socially awkward, overly fact based, ext ext.

That’s the stereotype – never mind what kind of social conditions perpetuate this type of undesirable state- that’s a different topic.

My thought is that women are ironically very asperger centric in their behavior and understanding of the world as it relates to them.

What do you guys think? I think its an interesting idea, quite a table-turner in that women are supposed to be more socially fluent than men and more socially adept, yet the reality is that they pedantically overemphasize an old playbook with no creativity.

Terms like “ADHD” and “lactose intolerance” or “only gluten free” actually p~~~ her off. The first time she heard of Asperger’s syndrome, she just about fell off her chair. There isn’t a starving child on the planet who will refuse a glass of milk or piece of cheese because they are “lactose intolerant”…. or a piece of bread because they can’t eat gluten. Until the last few decades, all these bulls~~~ conditions never existed in all of human history. To her (and in this way), the entire world has gone insane. If anyone uses the term “politically correct” in front of her, it will take all of her self control to not slap that person.

But that’s just my Mom.

What do you guys think? I think its an interesting idea, quite a table-turner in that women are supposed to be more socially fluent than men and more socially adept, yet the reality is that they pedantically overemphasize an old playbook with no creativity.

You know the word “society”? Well who do you think “society” is? It’s women. The Oprah, Wendy and Ellen audiences. The sheeple. Whatever “society” says is acceptable is what WOMEN say is acceptable. They are even called “socialites”. Women are socially fluent because the embrace heard thinking, are the hive mentalities and general concensus. They have also never been the Leonardos, the Galileos, the free thinkers, or those who changed the world… and yes, they lack creativity.

This is why not even the most eminent heads of their entire female sex has ever left the world a single, lasting, priceless or significant work of art. Especially in painting which requires objectivity of mind. Women are more decorative than men and can paint their faces and nails with absolutely perfect precision… but not one female Monet ever existed. That’s because in order to be TRULY creative, one must be able to remove oneself from the equation, and think of something BIGGER and MORE IMPORTANT than oneself. Women are much too self-centered for this. That’s why countless youtube videos exist of women painting THEMSELVES…… rather than how to paint something ELSE or how to forge a Monet.

“Socially fluent” is a great term because the are “the talk shows”.
But they can’t even think past their own f~~~ing nose.

And I agree that the diagnosis of aspergers is bulls~~~. In fact, it’s rather asperger-ish to diagnose someone as have aspergers, in a way. To use it as an analogue to describe women, however, doesn’t fall into that category.

Celiac disease and lactose intolerance are not bulls~~~ diseases either. When it comes to celiac disease for example there are histological differences to the epitelium of the intestine, degradation of villi and crypt formation as well as autoimmune activation of T-cells. At least HLA DQ genes have been tied to celiac disease as a mandatory gene to develop celiac disease and tissue transglutaminase is important in the pathogenesis of the disease. Lactose intolerance is a deficiancy of lactase, not having enough of a certain enzyme is not something you just make up. Allergies are increasing as well, is that bulls~~~ as well or might it have something to do with environmental changes?

Terms like “ADHD” and “lactose intolerance” or “only gluten free” actually p~~~ her off.

And rightly so though I do believe there are legitimate cases of a lactate allergy and Celiacs disease.
When I was a young lad I suffered from a form of temporary Celiacs although it wasnt the disease proper and after about 12 months I grew past it. I cant rightly remember what it was called but I recall the agony when my body would digest certain foods.

I got two friends who have aspergers syndrome diagnosis and anyone who actually talk to them will realize the difficulty they have in functioning socially. They have a very hard time reading body language and facial expressions as well as understanding the underlying meaning of what is said.

My older brother is a mite aspy and is very socially inept and reclusive. He simply doesnt connect with folks and doesnt feel the need to do so with anyone. Having said that, he does get lonely and in his own way will ‘suggest’ that I go and see him for a few days etc.

I do think however that there are a great many kids who have been labelled as ADD, ADHD or in the Autism Spectrum(of which Aspergers is a part) at the drop of a hat. Badly behaved kids are diagnosed with ADD when they just need more discipline or a different type of discipline; ADHD for kids who never learned to sit still and Autism Spectrum for kids who were never taught how to play nice with other kids. Such quick and dirty diagnoses are doing damage and we’ll see it more and more when these kids get older.

Back to point after my rambling, I dont think women are similar to autism or aspys or anything like it in any way. Women crave connections and social interaction; whats more is that they MUST control it in any way they can

Allergies are increasing as well, is that bulls~~~ as well or might it have something to do with environmental changes?

Evidence is mounting for what’s known as the hygiene hypothesis. The idea is that human immune systems for countless millenia were accustomed to fighting various pathogens and parasites that have been largely eliminated in first world countries just within the last few generations. The immune systems, having now lost their symbiotic foes, have gotten out of whack. The result is a surge in various auto-immune related disorders like allergies, asthma, diabetes, autism, etc.

Sounds kooky at first blush, but it’s gaining a lot of credibility in mainstream medicine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis

Yeah, I agree from a rather unfounded ground that the diagnoses are made at a whim and are overdiagnosed.

That’s the key here, and entirely what I meant.

When I was a kid (tough, regimented schooling) there was no A.D.D, or “attention deficit” anything. It was called “PAY F~~~ING ATTENTION”. Nobody diagnosed us with a problem or prescribed us pills for it. But this bulls~~~ has seeped into the culture …. to the point where calling someone out on flakey behavior, they the will now use “yeah man, sorry, I totally have, like, A.D.D man.” as an unacceptable excuse.

No you f~~~ing don’t. Just smarten up.

And now they throw the word “Aspie” around for anyone who is socially awkward. I have actually seen people on message boards and online discussions introduce themselves by saying “I’m an Aspie”, when it’s totally irrelevant in an online discussion. But during WWII there were no “aspies” to be found anywhere. They were just “socially awkward” people.

Somewhere along the lines… “toilet paper” has become “bathroom tissue” too.
The dump became the “landfill”.
Car crashes become “automobile accidents”.
Medicine became “Medication”.
“Sex” has become “gender”.

I’m talking about what George Carlin describes as “soft language”.
The language that takes the LIFE —- out of LIFE.

And now f~~~ing everything – including video games and fresh air – is called “misogyny”, which brings us back to the original poster’s point (above). The female understanding of the world is so f~~~ing ass backwards and in no way based in reality anymore. A woman’s very real actions could be the personification of evil and when you discuss it (or point it out) you’re now a misogynist. This bulls~~~ has seeped into the goddam legal system now. And because wee are all MUCH TOO TOLERANT you get people believing in stupid s~~~ like “online bullying”. Yahoo has a goddam “report abuse” button.

What the f~~~ is “online bullying” ? “Abuse buttons”? F~~~ off. How is it possible to abuse someone online? Do I have to take a hammer or baseball bat to my keyboard? If anyone feels “abused” by something they read on a webpage, they have very deep mental problems. Hows that for a diagnosis. As a cure, I recommend they turn off their f~~~ing computers and forfeit their internet connections because they are CLEARLY not ready for it. How the f~~~ do these losers cope in the real world???

This is the answer to the original poster’s question. Gooddam right women are socially awkward… and one could even argue that’s exactly why they belong in the f~~~ing kitchen. It’s for their own protection, because they can’t handle real world thoughts or opinions without feeling “violated” and “abused”. Women don’t even know the basic difference between THOUGHTS, OPINIONS and ACTIONS.

Type something a woman doesn’t like and she will react like you just treated her badly.
The world has gone f~~~ing insane, really.

Keymaster : I do see your point and in some cases just more discipline might be a good solution. Medicine is always evolving and when we get better understanding we also get new diagnoses and new treatments. If that wasn’t the case we’d still be using leeches and trepanation. It’s always easy when not afflicted by something to tell someone to get over it or just stop acting in a certain way. Telling someone with major depression to just cheer up doesn’t work that well, it’s strange but when it comes to afflictions of the mind there are no understanding to be had. If someone breaks a leg people understand that you can’t walk, but if you are depressed people just think you are lazy and should cheer up.

Online bullying I don’t think have anything to do with feminism. With the advent of social media every young person is online in some form or the other. Online bullying is just normal bullying taken online. People making hate group towards a person, spreading rumours or just sending constant hate mails, it’s not something a kid is equipped to deal with.

So much stuff is considered misogynic and that is a problem, from what I hear about rape culture at campuses and critique being equalled to misogynia, I’m just shaking my head. But there are no asperger like actions when it comes to women. The changes to society we are seeing just means they have outsmarted men in that regard and got their agenda working for them. I think the main issues is due to men and women have such different ways to percieve the world, neither can be said to be the reality, it’s our own perception of reality. From womens viewpoint they make a lot of sense. Men and women behave so differently when interacting. It’s just that they are forcing their own world view on all of humanity = matriarchy.

I remember a kid in school, who would go absolute bat s~~~ after lunch and this puzzled the teachers and principals, we had a liberal type nurse who thought the kid had a plethora of problems, come to find out the kid had a sugar load of crap food made for him by his mom, ranging from 3 bags of gushers, 2 bags of M&Ms, and a skittle bag with one peanut butter sandwich and two juice boxed, yeah he was loaded up on sugar!. Later on when His diet was changed, The Kid was fine. But, i digress.

I feel that the Female mind hasn’t been looked into in a serious deep psychology way. Men have been tested Psychologically, mentally and physically,  during WW1, WW2 as well as guinea pigs during every war, social problem, stress and diseases known to man. The British Army Men during WW1/WW2 as well as American Service Men were tested on how they could face combat situations being impaired by drugs, the Men were given LSD, Cocaine, as well as Marijuana to see how they could handle on a mental level.

There were even test done on a psychological level on Men during stressful situations, sexual, traumatic as well painful childhood memories brought back up.  Books have been written about it, magazine articles, science, medical as well as military books, were written about it to further understand what makes a Man tick and how well can He perform during certain situations.

Have women been tested like that?, F~~~….NO!.  Combat tested with drugs?, battle tested?, emotionally as well as physically tested?, nope not at all. The point I’m trying to make is, On a Male level, when it comes to sports, computers, adrenaline, sex, etc…

there are tons of explanations as to why Men do it, and article after articles by science experts explaining as to why Men excel and enjoy these kind of things. Look at female serial killers, or women who kill their children, often time we’ll hear experts say “We honestly don’t know what would drove this woman to do it“.  Yet when Jeffery Dahmer ate other dudes, left and right, they had a 5 Men panel of psychologist here to timbucktoo explain WHY Jeffery Dahmer did it, or John Wayne Gacey or Richard Ramirez.

One of my College professors brought this subject up years ago, and His concern was that “What do we truly know about the Female mind?, and why we should be frighten of it”. At the time I thought he was a quack, and overworked, but later on when i remembered his lecture on Male and Female testing and how more is known about the Male Mind then Female really struck a core with me.

I can understand a women who was gang raped as a child by her father, sibling or whatever. But how the f~~~ does one explain a girl with a good upbringing that kills her kids, her husband, or sometimes people around her??. Experts still can’t TRULY explain what a Postpartum depression is, they liken it to the stress of having a baby, some say it’s because stress of something new in their life they have to deal with. yeah one says this, the other says that. Why the f~~~ can’t one person agree on one single subject?.

A relative of mine who is a female psychologist, can’t even explain as to why  my Ex wife would stab me with a knife, and with a pair of scissors and punch me repeatedly for no reason. My Ex wasn’t raped as a child, she was never beaten, never showed signs of aggression growing up,  had a normal upbringing, yet what drove her to do that?, to act that s~~~ out and potentially killing me in the process?.

That kinda s~~~ will f~~~ with your mind, if you really stop and think about it. it’s almost rabid in nature, like owning a Tiger, you raised it, you loved it, and feed it, then one day it chews your damn body in two. Don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to say every woman out there is like Gone Girl, and will f~~~ up your very existence. I’m just saying, when it comes to the female mind, most experts can’t even agree on what makes a women tick.