MGTOWAre we powerless in the dating world? – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 18:51:26 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/page/511/#post-4835 <![CDATA[Are we powerless in the dating world?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/page/511/#post-4835 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:51:24 +0000 Sword  

When even the unattractive bottom of the barrel females can be swarmed with attention from beta males and manginas it becomes apparent that somewhere down the line, something went horribly wrong.

When it comes to online dating, the one thing that has drastically f~~~ed us over is preconceived notions of chivalry. More specifically! the idea men must chase and initiate the first move, this is the foundations of an unbalanced “game” that has been exploited to its fullest at our expense.

The reason in which we first created these unwritten rules is now obsolete due to the shift in power that now favours the female as the dominant species. Now I know what your thinking…….but try and explain what power we actually have over women in this day and age? And Lettuce be cereal, if a man hits a woman in public he is demonised and punished, but if the tables are turned he is laughed at and ridiculed.

Our power is meaningless and holds no true value beyond pure aesthetics and in most cases…not even once.

We now find ourselves submissive to the decisions of a female and the outcome of our actions will rest entirely in her decision, whether it be casual sex or a cup of coffee.

To further complicate matters and create even more unbalance is the sheer amount of competition you are up against.

The layers upon layers of makeup that these females wear has significantly affected the playing field and made the game almost unplayable for the less attractive males who would otherwise stand a fair chance at meeting someone they could be happy with.

This has led to men being willing to offer financial security for a piece of the action, which In turn has created a domino effect causing many of the more desirable females to pursue this as well.

For many of us, We are playing a game we can’t win, Many will fall and some may even give up all together and join the other team.

We need to take action and stop putting these girls on a pedestal because as much as they would hate to admit it, they need us.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-4864 <![CDATA[Reply To: Are we powerless in the dating world?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-4864 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:15:39 +0000 jambear A very good assessment on modern dating. Unfortunately I do not think that you can reason with the betas, white knights, and manginas. They will have to be burned, stomped, and used before they can wake up. I would love to try and help them but I feel it would be futile until they are sufficiently tired of being taken advantage of.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-4943 <![CDATA[Reply To: Are we powerless in the dating world?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-4943 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:46:17 +0000 Keymaster You had me at “Lettuce be cereal”. (I like this guy already.)

Welcome Sword! Thanks for joining.

Your bottom line is the bottom line. “They need us.”. Goddam right.
You’re right, but you’re also only half right. (work with me here….)

We all know “women are the gatekeepers of sex, and men are the gatekeepers of commitment”. That’s a fact. But here is the kicker: Everything women do, say and think is to try and convince us that we need (and want) sex more than they do, and they hold all the cards. They do, but only partially. It’s also a fact that women have more sexual partners than EVER BEFORE in history. Even guys who get laid only once in a while are enjoying more sex than our fathers and grandfathers ever did!

If you ever got vagina for a few drinks, or a few dinners and didn’t have to marry her, then you just made off with the vagina your grandfather had to MARRY first.

Sex is their source of “power”. But women are also sex-obseesed. Offer to buy a woman a drink, and the first thing on her mind is “would I f~~~ this guy?” she’s already thinking about sex (and wielding her power) before you have shown any interest in f~~~ing her – or made a move. But have you ever just talked to a woman like sex doesn’t mean a goddam thing to you?

Suddenly her “power” is GONE. She’s COUNTING it. But when we don’t give a s~~~ if we get laid or not, her “power” is GONE. When I interact with an attractive chick and there is some interest, I talk to her like a guy. As if she has no vagina. She’s just another human. This freaks them out. They can’t handle it. And when you’re relaxed and look at your watch, put down your unfinished beer and say “I gotta go”… it’s GAME OVER for her. Now she has to power trip someone else. She can only pull this power s~~~ on guys who think she holds all the cards. The rest of us know better. She wants to get laid! Her source of “power” is relying on me to pursue it. But if we don’t, she’s got nothing.

Women play poker like they are holding a full house, but when you call them out and make her show her hand, she’s holding a pair of 3s at best.

You already know we are expected to do the choosing , the asking and the initiating.
Women believe this too. They WANT us to do the initiating. This is GOOD thing which works in our favor.

It puts us (men) in a position where we have a WORLD OF OPTIONS.
If ONE doesn’t put out… another one WILL.

And because women don’t initiate, their options are severely limited to “choosing” only from the group of men who FEEL LIKE showing interest.

You follow?

You have a world of options. You can approach 100 women and 2-4 will be responsive and have sex with you. But she can only choose from (and say “yes” to) one of the 0.1% of men who approach her and initiate contact. If no men approach her, she has no power. Simple as that. And don’t kid yourself, out of the few men who approach her and show interest, she doesn’t even WANT most of them. Women are too f~~~ing lazy to do anything about this.

You know how many HOT women never get asked out or approached? It’s shocking.

Look at the way she has to pretend to be in demand and fabulous.,.. when she’s pathetically clutching her phone waiting to get ONE text hoping ONE guy will ask her out on Friday night which she spends pounding down ice-cream with her cat. Power? What power? She doesn’t have any! Then she gets dressed up and goes out with all of her girlfriends and drinks and dances with THEM. She’s 28, single and in no position to think she has any power. She would be lucky to get one guy.

So don’t fall for it.

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You were right when you said “they need us”. More right than you know.
They need us …. to buy their s~~~ sandwich. BADLY.

The entire female modus operandi is about trying to convince men (you and me) that we want sex more than she does. But it’s bulls~~~. Complete bulls~~~. When a man figures this out, it’s GAME OVER for her. Behave like you can take it or leave it, and panties just start falling off on their own. It’s just a little switch in attitude. Suddenly she is wondering “why doesn’t he want to f~~~ me? Am I not attractive?” and they will practically jump on your dick. It’s an exaggeration but you understand my point.

A take it or leave it attitude is KEY in this day and age.
Women have over-leveraged, and her current price of pussy is NOT WORTH IT.

The only time vagina is worth it, is when she throws it at you.
And they will, when you don’t care anymore. MGTOW are laughing our asses off.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-4979 <![CDATA[Reply To: Are we powerless in the dating world?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-4979 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:02:07 +0000 JollyMisanthrope When you disarm a woman’s ability to manipulate you with her sexuality she has nothing else to to use to ensnare you. You can shift the balance of power if you have self control.

The easiest way to look at it if sex is your main goal is to remember that you are basically going to spend x number of minutes banging this chick, hopefully have a decent orgasm and then that’s it. How much is it going to cost you to get you that orgasm via her pussy? Is it worth it? If you think it’s worth it then good luck to you, I hope she’s a champ in the sack. But ironically the more you make her want it by not showing interest in her the more her ego is going to want to prove that she is a champ in the sack. It’s easy to use their emotions against them if, yet again, you have self control.

Just use male logic against a woman’s lack of logic and tendency to become emotional. And remember to end the encounter with “Don’t call me, I’ll call you!”

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5033 <![CDATA[Reply To: Are we powerless in the dating world?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5033 Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:18:39 +0000 Deus Ex Machina In the modern dating world my personal opinion would be that similar to one of a job application. Jobs, since the economic collapse are hard to find especially careers. Women put themselves in place of a corporate setting by which they have their applicants lined up, get a interview (date), and then make their decision based on how well the interview, experience that person has (i.e. did he pay her dinner?, is he rich?, and doesn’t have children, does he want children?, does he want marriage?, previous relationships).

 

They’re one in the same, the dating world is not what out grandfathers or fathers experienced. in fact, i highly doubt our fathers could meet the criteria of what Women want nowadays. they want a sensitive man, in reality they want an asshole who will mistreat them and use them. They say they’re independent, they have a bunch of f~~~ buddies on the side (sometimes women), who fixes their sinks when it breaks, or helps with their cars when it breaks down.

 

What I’ve noticed in the dating world, is that there is an Air to women, just like a large corporation would be. To most women it’s more about “hey if you can’t provide what I want, then there are men behind you, lined up around the block who can”.

 

 

As far as some men being controlled goes, absolutely. Just today i saw in the news about “women’s abuse awareness” in which Men walk a mile or so wearing women’s high heels!, yes….f~~~ing….high heels. What sort of message does that send to the younger men?, that s~~~ is acceptable?. My point is, Women cry Awareness, or Equality, but when the hell have we ever seen Women walking in Men’s shoes on behalf of the Men who are in abusive relationships?, or Women walking for Testicular and Prostate cancer?, which kills more men per year then breast cancer. We live in a double standard Misandric society, that mocks men in a very subvert way.

 

In one aspect, these men are innocently going along wearing high heels because they actually care about the awareness, but to the women who organize these events, in their minds are saying “look at these stupid ass men walking in heels, ha ha!,  glory be to the almighty Vagina!”.

 

My brother and I attended a sack race every year for the carnival, we’d win great prizes and it was tons of fun. then some Bull-Dyke comes along, fires all the men who did the organizing and decided to have “women vs men sack races” and “men have to wear a dresses in the race to be fair”, my older cousin objected to that idea and was kicked out and labeled a misogynist.

 

 

 

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"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5048 <![CDATA[Reply To: Are we powerless in the dating world?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5048 Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:31:57 +0000 FlamingMan I would totally agree that women have the power in the dating world.  And for an AVERAGE guy playing the game these days is like John Connor fighting the superior Terminator army… you can win but there isn’t much room for error. Really whenever I watch a normal interaction, for example an average guy approaching a girl I expect the guy to fail. Especially in night clubs. When I approach a normal looking girl  in the nightclub I sometimes may make a mistake and the girl tells me sth like “I had many offers from different (or better looking guys) today”.

Women have the power, but I doubt that they use this power wisely. I think many of them fail to recognize and appreciate the inward value of a man. If they would so, it would be much easier for them to find the ‘right one’ and be happy.  Nobody is perfect, but we as man have enourmes value in ourself by just being a man. We have qualities that you can rarely find in women. It’s OK because we are meant to complement each other. But if women disregard that value and instead only search for ‘superior’ qualities like wealth, looks, status and other qualities that are more spice than the real meat they have trouble. I see how girls who have choice end up single (because they can’t find the ‘perfect’ guy) or with terrible partners who hurt them.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5049 <![CDATA[Reply To: Are we powerless in the dating world?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5049 Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:48:47 +0000 Keymaster

Women have the power, but I doubt that they use this power wisely. I think many of them fail to recognize and appreciate the inward value of a man. If they would so, it would be much easier for them to find the ‘right one’ and be happy.

This is an absolute certainty, and don’t kid yourself gentlemen… a “no” from a woman is NOT a “failure”. We must all stop calling it that. What is she “rejecting”? Your attention? Your TIME? A free drink? Your generosity? An evening out on your dime? A eventual marriage proposal where you ask for permission to love her until death?

“Rejection” from women is BULLS~~~.
Its not a failure or a rejection.
She is saving him the trouble.

When you realize that getting rid of a woman is alot more costly than getting one to move in with you, only in a woman’s f~~~ed up mind does she think “no” is some kind of a “rejection”. You want to know how much power you REALLY have and how much she doesn’t have? Here it is. When you approach a woman for any interaction…

You don’t know her yet.
Therefore, she doesn’t MEAN anything to you.
And since she doesn’t MEAN anything to you yet…
Her “rejection” can’t possibly mean anything to you either.

Congratulations. You’re cured of all rejection.

As soon as you are aware of this, it’s not a “failure” anymore. Every man who thinks a “rejection” is some kind of failure, has just freely given his power away and handed it over to her. Women are so f~~~ing clueless about how to find a good / suitable man… but they are great at sucking criminal/ abusive/thug dick though. So what idiot would ever be the guy who tries to show that he’s the good guy? She wouldn’t know the difference or be able to identify a “good man” if he wore wings, a diaper, and shot heart-shaped arrows at her ass.

Ask yourself, what is the reward for female acceptance?
A simple sex act and a possibly pregnancy.

I don’t call that “success”.
Therefore the her “rejection” is no “failure”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5126 <![CDATA[Reply To: Are we powerless in the dating world?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5126 Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:40:50 +0000 JollyMisanthrope On a side note Sword, if you kept the sideburns and messed with the hair you’d have the Wolverine look nailed!

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5162 <![CDATA[Reply To: Are we powerless in the dating world?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5162 Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:16:59 +0000 Sword Thanks for the warm welcome bro and cheers for all the words of wisdom you guys are leaving, it’s very re assuring to know there are other men out here who can not only see through the bs these women are trying to pull, but who are actually taking a stand.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5195 <![CDATA[Reply To: Are we powerless in the dating world?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/are-we-powerless-in-the-dating-world/#post-5195 Sun, 19 Oct 2014 05:49:27 +0000 Total Lee The dude writes like Wolverine too. I have seen female forums before and there is page after page and Hundreds of posts and replies with one line responses of empty headed s~~~. Here we have 5 guys talking and everyone of them brings something I can take with me and think about for a week. Some real wisdom bombs here.

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