It’s women who are gaining more power and money. Not jealous of that but it would be difficult dating women because more and more will be expecting men to court them. I remember a guy stating his girlfriend was much more than he was but she expected him to buy expensive gifts, when he was already courting her.

Also feminists have changed wikipedia to their advantage, so it could be possible they have changed dictionary definition.

There is a big difference between “hating women”… and hating what women actually DO.

“Misogyny” is the hatred of women. And unless you are running around intentionally treating women badly, then you are NOT A MISOGYNIST. I am so sick and tired of hearing women squawk about “misogyny” when they have no concept of the word. It’s an infantile deflection.

@ether_ore We already know you’re not a misogynist. Most men are not misogynists – even MGTOW. The opposite of “love” is not “hate”… it’s indifference. We even have this question as part of our fun and interactive “red pill quiz”. In order to “hate” you would have to CARE. The “hate” women are speaking about when they sling accusations of misogyny around – is purely in their own heads. They can’t get at MGTOW anymore. The men have woken up. She is now powerless. The only leverage she has is to call you a “misogynist”.. in a last ditch effort to get you to try and prove you are “not” a misogynist. Give her the validation she seeks

“Hate women are you kidding? There is no better place to deposit sperm.”

… and then watch the expression on her face.

Other responses I enjoy:

• “Women are the original misogynists. Nobody hates women more than other women. A man doesn’t need to be a misogynist. Women already hate themselves and each other. You will never see a man stick his finger down a woman’s throat to get her to lose weight, but countless women do that to THEMSELVES.”

• “Misogynist? Or did you mean “massage therapist”? I could really use a back rub right now. Thanks!”… and then motion that she should rub your shoulders. If she avoids the contact, hold a mirror up and accuse her of hating men! Simple.

• “Hate women?” What are you talking about? It’s silly, unrealistic and impossible to “hate women” as an entire gender just like it’s impossible to love them all. And believe me, I really wish I could. Would you like to experience some love and have sex right now?” Again if she doesn’t go for it, ask her why she hates men so much!

Just be creative and stick it right back in their faces. Kill’em with kindness, and really dial it up.
…and you’ll quickly find it’s they who are doing the hating.

(Misandry)

Women who use the word “misogyny” in everyday conversations are so hateful today, they will pretend “you hate women” just to deflect attention away from their own hatred and polluted mentalities. How is it even possible to NOT to distrust women? Who told them we should TRUST them? From dying their hair, to lying about their age, lying about their weight, buying fake body parts, fake nails, fake eyelashes, make-up to cover up their faces, heels to make them look taller than they really are… they work SO HARD to mirespresent themselves every single day of their existence — and they even congratulate themselves in the mirror when they do a great job of it! How is it possible to trust a creature like that?

This is not “hatred”, this is plain and simple logic.
I don’t touch plants that could be poisonous either.

Like women, Misogyny needs to be put in it’s proper place. Women should be thanking the men they pretend are “misogynists”, because if a woman were right every time she tried to identify one… western bitches would be in a world of s~~~ today. The accusation of “misogyny” is so simple to generate, all you need to do is not tell her what she wants to hear. Even when a woman is totally ignored, she will behave you like treated her badly. The “misogyny” is all in their own heads.

There is a big difference between “hating women”… and hating what women actually DO. When you express displeasure about what a woman actually does and point it out to her, it’s no longer your problem. It’s hers.

<cite>@vilenord said:</cite>
I believe their will always be an initial hatred of women when a man first learns of the MGTOW teachings, but if the man is intelligent, his hatred will quickly evolve into indifference. Why hate women for being what they were born to be? Neither man nor women can do anything about what they were born as, wasting my emotions on hating women just seems nonsensical to me.

I do appreciate your point of view and in essence, I agree, but, for me there is a slight contradiction in what you said. Specifically: “Neither man nor women can do anything about what they were born as… “; and… “…Hatred will quickly evolve into indifference.” I don’t see going from hatred to indifference as something that “evolves” if by that you meant something that occurs without conscious thought and follow through of effort. Going from hatred to indifference (for me) takes active effort. A man can affect change. Overcoming bad habits is necessarily the result of conscious effort and replacing bad actions with beneficial ones, thus creating a new habit. The word “repentance” is not owned by religionists. Men are capable of repenting outside of a religious context and doing something about the way they were born. For example: men are born with a sex drive. Some men develop this thing we were born with into homosexuality, some into addiction to pornography, some into pedophilia and some into “pre-marital relations” (to site a recent posting). There are all kinds of variations on the theme that we as men are born with. But, we, as men, (and for me, to be a man) have to be in control of our bodily urges… not the other way around.

Now, please, I didn’t mean this comment to be confrontational. It was just me wanting to be clear.

—– for what it’s worth —–

“Women are the original misogynists. Nobody hates women more than other women. A man doesn’t need to be a misogynist. Women already hate themselves and each other.

That is so true. You know why you hear women say they would rather work or hang out with guys? Because guys are less drama. Sure there may be those guys who are white knights and going to try and date her, but most of the time men don’t start pointless drama towards each other and hate one another for no reason. Remember that Family Guy where Stewie put Peter, Brian, Quagmire, and Joe in that simulation where they had no memory and there was no one around? The guys actually worked together to try and figure out what was going on then when Stewie put Lois, Meg, and Bonni in there they were beating each other up and he was like “they haven’t even been in there 3 minutes, haven’t even bothered to ask each other their names or anything”

http://www.mgtow.com/audio/gold-digger/

“Hating” women for this is like shaking your fist at the sun for gamma rays. The anger that a man might feel is when a woman like that totally misrepresents herself and pretends she is getting married under the guise of “love”…. and then he finds out AFTER THE FACT that she was no more than a whore who had no respect for him as she screwed his best friend for free.

http://www.mgtow.com/audio/3-million-dollar-bitch/

That’s where a guy would be justifiably angry. And only a person with a callous indifference to the humanity of men would NOT have a problem with that. To call him a “misogynist” for what a woman actually does is an infantile deflection in attempt to excuse the actions of the female. NEVER let a woman get away with that. He is not a “misogynist”. SHE is a money-grubbing unfeeling f~~~ed up slag.

You know why you hear women say they would rather work or hang out with guys? Because guys are less drama.

A woman like that IS a misogynist herself. She can’t stand to be around women and prefers the company of men, herself. She has no business using the word in a sentence hurled at a man. Women hate each other like a deer hates a shotgun. You don’t need to look very far to see it either.

“Neither man nor women can do anything about what they were born as…”

To elaborate, I wasn’t talking about the mental or spiritual struggle to overcome the animal in our DNA, that is a journey that is *optional, what I was referring to is the fact that the animal exists in the first place and always will exist despite our constant struggles with it. Thus, we cannot do anything about the fact that we are born to act a certain way. We chose to suppress it and walk a higher path, but the lizard brain is always there.

“…Hatred will quickly evolve into indifference.”

Perhaps evolve was the wrong word. I did mention that this new found state of indifference would only be obtained by the intelligent man, and I mentioned this because it does take a certain measure of wisdom and strength to arrive at indifference. Logically, a lot of men can see that there is no reason to hate women, but they lack the strength to cease the hatred. There are also a lot of men who are too stupid to follow the logic, and blindly hate out of emotion.

*unfortunately

Feel free to challenge my posts, I welcome the dialogue. I am old enough and smart enough to know that I don’t know everything. One thing I do know though is that I must remain open to criticism of my statements. If I can’t defend what I said, I must acknowledge this. If I can defend what I said, it strengthens my argument. I hope all who read this feel the same.

<cite>@mgtow.com said:</cite>
@thebard Bingo.

You know why you hear women say they would rather work or hang out with guys? Because guys are less drama.

Yup so true. My mom and sister always say that because of how women at each of their jobs always cause useless drama lol.