It’s not like it bothers me, I just find it ironic that someone would create an online forum just for a bunch of single men talking about stuff. It also seems like there is a lot of hating towards American women, although I can honestly say that probably some of it is deserved because America’s dating culture sucks so badly (although not all of it is to blame on women/females).

Just wondering if anyone has anything to add this, insights, opinions, etc.

Some “one” didn’t create this place. Thousands of guys from all over did. They are what MGTOW is.

Now dating women is sorta prohibited to us MGTOW because we are going our own way and women will honestly just drag you down, through marriage, alimony, false rape accusations, making you believe you have to do everything while she sits on her ass,

many people have this misconception that all gay men have to be over sensitive or feminine, with me that is not the case at all, I can’t stand people like that they are super annoying and reinforce the stereotypes,

Now I don’t really know MGTOW’s stance on gay men, but I myself am single but if I were to choose I would have to introduce them to MGTOW value’s and tell them to stay AWAY from the LGBT community, because like I said earlier it’s just ran by feminists, but with homosexual (And I’m not being biased here) I think that two non-flamboyant men would be good for each other over a heterosexual relationship because two men can understand each other and it would be an equal household… but with a woman and a man it’s basically all those Ideals us at MGTOW.com fight against.. Having kids, having to pay alimony, losing everything, now if it’s two men you can not have a biased view because they are both men, and we all know that women usually win court battles and things of legal matter.

This is just my stance on it, there are plenty more but I’m just giving you my opinion.

Obviously some hostility is deserved, it’s not like I haven’t tried out the dating game myself. I guess I am just of the belief that it’s not just women at fault for creating the dating mess that American culture and society currently finds itself in.

Also, as a gay man yourself, you haven’t had complicated and frustrating relationships with other men? Because I’ve had friends who are gay and have sexual relationships with both men and women and they say that the two are basically the same way, except one is a vag and the other is anal. I mean, it’s not like the man or the woman are going to have that drastic a difference of attitudes in a relationship. Both are going to negotiate for levels of power, reciprocity, etc.

I think it’s less complicated then heterosexual marriage with dealing with kids and things, but I will admit our relationships are normal but not like how it is in heterosexual couples, you are most likely thinking about flamboyant men, who are more FEMININE act like women and that is probably why they are more like heterosexual marriages, I’m not tryign to hate on heterosexual people, I’m just saying it’s more common.

And I have had complicated relationships, but it’s usually with the flamboyant guys, now guys who act masculine, I’ve never really had a problem with.

By the way, I don’t mean to upset anyone here. I mean, s~~~, I got a lot of problems with the dating life, too. I have been single for almost too many years to count, but it’s not like it really affects my way of viewing women, though.

The only thing it affects is my way of viewing how American dating works (which is usually quite badly). Which is why I think there is an epidemic of single-hood out there in American society because people just don’t want to deal with the complexity/bulls~~~ of it all. I can’t blame them, I don’t like complexity either.

At the same time, I just don’t think that women are totally to blame, I think it is the culture’s fault. We have a culture that is not conducive and/or beneficial to healthy relationships between people (really of any sexuality, whether they are heterosexual or homosexual)

MGTOW have learned that a marriage contract/ relationship / cohabitation fails a cost/benefit analysis for men. A conversation with a divorce attorney can clear that up for you. It really doesn’t have as much to do with women as, say, the STATE. It doesn’t matter how we feel what a “woman” would do on a whim… when the state will support her. Whatever “she” does is not the real problem.

Now while your friends will say something like “gay and straight relationships are the same. One has a vagina and one is anal”.

The “anal” won’t put you in prison with a single 911 call wherever he f~~~ing feels like it.
A gay man doesn’t drag their partner to court for being “too nice”.

http://www.mgtow.com/video/ungrateful-women/

Now, since even a female JUDGE will have a problem with that, you can see how a man would too. Gay men don’t behave like that, and they don’t hold their hands out for alimony when they do it. There is a huge difference and it’s too big to lump them together like that.

By the way, you say you’re not a MGTOW in your profile, so what are you doing here? Do you belong to feminist websites too? There are too many stories here that men have left here about complete and utter devastation in divorce. They lost their kids and family, hopes dreams and futures and fortunes. The state feels nothing when that happens. You may not “think heterosexual couples have a monopoly on unpleasant divorces haha“….

But there is really nothing haha about it.

Let me know when that happens to a gay man will you?
He can sign up here and tell us all about it.

Ellen will muster up the tears to feature one, 2 and 3 gay teen suicides on her show because they were outed on Facebook. But when did she ever feature +1000 soldiers who eat a bullet very year because of a cheating army wife?