I have a friend who is so pathetic I can’t even spend time with him anymore. One evening we were out getting a late snack somewhere and pretty girl was exiting as we were going in. I kept on going but he ran after her just to tell her how pretty she is. I had to bitch slap him for that. She looks back at me as though I should have had him on a leash. When he came back he was out of breath and I asked him “how did it go?”.

HE: “She has a boyfriend.”

ME: “That’s what she SAYS.”

HE: “WHAT?”

ME: “and you believed her.”

HE: “Do you think she was LYING?”

ME: “Of COURSE she’s lying. When a chick tells you she “has a boyfriend”, it means she doesn’t want YOU. F~~~ man. Do you go around telling UGLY chicks they are UGLY?”

HE: “Uh…. no.”

ME: “Then why the f~~~ do you run after a girl to tell her she’s pretty?”

HE: “huh?”

Jesus Christ. I don’t even know where to BEGIN retraining this idiot. He’s so utterly clueless and such a pussy beggar, I can’t take it any more. I have told him to get the f~~~ out of my life and stay there. It was the only time I have had to be this harsh. Other blue pill friends have “faded away” as a result of their wives alienating them from their own social circles. I’ve seen it so much, It’s a predictable certainty now.

The MGTOW is like “the escaped slave”. He brings news of FREEDOM.
Their girlfriends and wives won’t want you hanging around with them.
They prefer their husbands be kept in the dark.

But it’s the endless attempts of trying to pawn me off to some single fat female friend that’s unbearable.

It also doesn’t help when your stories and experiences are much more interesting than theirs. All they talk about is spit-up and diaper genies. But then I show up and show them photos of a 5-day road trip lost in the wilderness. Nothing but an open road with no map and no plan. No razor. The phone is off and stays in the trunk. Journey and Foreigner blasting on the radio. F~~~ing paradise as far as I’m concerned.

A public declaration of MGTOW is not a good idea. It’s a calling. You can’t MAKE anyone understand. It’s too open for misunderstanding. Even MRAs (who are versed in the ways of the Manosphere) are as clueless and confused about it. Maybe you’re better at it than me, but I make it a practice to INTERNALIZE it. Nobody needs to know. When a blue-pill friend goes off, I just politely nod and enjoy their ignorance – or just keep eating.

Is it just me but does every woman who hears about the NAWALT automatically thinks that they are the one. In my opinion the NAWALT is a term used to define and label an impossibility and by claiming to be a NAWALT you instantly render yourself not one. Also if someone labels you as one, that disqualifies you too.

Sorry for going off topic but your story made me think on the NAWALT.

A buddy of mine recently got mixed up with a girl (who is now pregnant), Well he comes to me for advice, i give it to him and in turn he gets all butthurt and p~~~ed at me because i told him to take a paternity test from this girlfriend just to make sure this kid is actually His, his reply “i was with her everyday” i told him that’s hard to believe because nobody is together every f~~~ing day.

So he got p~~~ed and since then our friendship which was strong for a good 20+ has now ceased. Friendship is about honesty and compassion, i showed compassion as well as honesty in my words, but you can’t reason with a stubborn person.

I was “black listed”by my male friends wives after i “went my own way”… WMOW! ha!, i think i just started another movement. Anyways I digress,  after my divorce in 2008 i noticed how i was invited over my married friends houses less and less, and how we all seemed to stop hanging out with my married guy friends. One night a buddy came over and told me that His wife saw me as a “Threat” and she didn’t like how “single” I was. I felt like i was in school again, and remembered how when you misbehaved around another kid you would be “separated”?, that’s how i felt.

I personally (my own personal opinion) look at MGTOW in a secret society Fight Club way, “first rule of MGTOW, DON’T TALK ABOUT MGTOW”. Because I feel unless someone is actually a MGTOW, they wont understand, And at this point in my life, i’m tired of explaining s~~~ to people who either don’t understand, or are quick to make judement calls. to each is own.

Now as far as your Lesbian friend making that comment about you being more confident.  MGTOW are way more confident then your average man, why? we stop giving a f~~~, a long time ago and do what we want, when WE want. Women see that s~~~?, and they’ll throw themselves at you.

They are RELENTLESSLY unaware.

A MGTOW has already found out ether is no such thing as Santa Claus – and he LIKES that reality. He PREFERS it. It feels good for him to know that Santa and the Easter bunny don’t exist. This means he is willing to embrace a reality that was not previously presented to him. He was taught something else. He was taught there is a Santa and an Easter Bunny.

Even though accepting their non existence could have been a painful experience, he is a fundamental seeker of the truth. If you COULD prove their existence, he would believe it. That’s how reality driven he is. Even when he doesn’t believe it… he WILL change his mind if there is enough supporting evidence.

A blu-pill person will NOT.

They will tell themselves and believe ANYTHING – no matter how compelling the evidence to the contrary. Their prison is a familiar, comfortable zone – padded with walls of velvety self-deception.

A RedPill man simply can NOT sit down and have dinner with that kind person, or hang with them for extended period. In the most fundamental way, they cannot be true “friends”. It’s impossible.

One is married and the one I was to late to help. I know he would not abandon me but try to change my mind, as long as I do not criticize his life he would not think twice about my MGTOW lifestyle. He would pity me.

Another is a pussy whipped guy who thinks he is in control of his relationship. His delusional mindset is fascinating, but oddly enough he is the one who would be the most supporting of my choice.

My best friend I know would understand why I have decided to this route. He has seen me be shredded by woman time and time again, and has gotten the calls from me in tears saying I want to kill myself. He would say to not close the door because you never know but would support any choice I made.

I might tell them about MGTOW someday but for now I am content with them not knowing, and thinking I am a chronic bachelor.

I do not want to get married

If you will permit me to offer a little tidbit, stop using the word “marriage”… and instead, (when you are blue-pill company) mention THE CONTRACT.

As in: “I will never sign a marriage contract under any circumstances”.

This is something you won’t even have to explain or justify. They will understand and it makes them think. It’s another one of those grenades we were talking about. But it also has the added benefit of not allowing them to accuse you of being “butthurt”. That’s the first thing they will shoot you down with. You want to avoid that. Whether you are PERSONALLY against marriage is not the issue. The issue is refusing to let THE STATE set a single foot in your personal life. That’s the point you want to make.

“Marriage” is not the reason men avoid it.
It’s the CONTRACT WITH THE STATE which is out of the question.

But when in conversation with a female(s), if she pushes the subject of “marriage”, I actually AGREE! When talking with women, I am enthusiastic about marriage and I let them know this. I tell them I already have my marriage contract drafted up, and all the terms have already been written. A woman just needs to sign it. When they ask me what the terms are, I just tell them.

#1. You will shut the f~~~ up whenever I request it.

  “OMFG Are you serious?”

Of course I’m serious. Shutting the f~~~ up takes less effort than applying lipstick. It takes less effort than talking! Its asking absolutely NOTHING of her. So if a woman isn’t even willing to DO NOTHING to please her husband, then she is simply not marriageable.

For all the bulls~~~ women expect their husbands to do to “make them happy”, the least a man can expect is some peace and silence when he wants it. The woman who is not willing to give him that, can get the f~~~ out.

That’s when they shut the f~~~ up about “marriage” on the spot.
And I enjoy every minute of the silence.

I have never even had to mention #2.

<cite>@mgtow.com said:</cite>
Dump them. Or be ready to.

This. No talking to blue pillers. Cut all stress inducing things out of your life.