Also, I’m happy to answer any questions relating to Australians conditions regarding Marriage, Divorce Law, Women from my experience etc.

So anyway, a little about me, I’m 46, slightly overweight (I prefer comfortable but what the f~~~, who’s going to believe that anyway right?) and fairly sure i was not an Alpha Male at any time in my life.

So I married a woman a few years ago after 6-7 years of living together, what a f~~~ing mistake, I built a house, settled into a job i didn’t really like that paid well, she got pregnant after spending years telling me she couldn’t have kids and completely let herself go to s~~~ afterwards.

Don’t get me wrong I love my now 11 year old daughter and have her week on, week, off, at least i did for the last two years until my ex (not yet divorced officially) lost her job – went into money panic mode and demanded more money in child support. long story short, many arguments later and my daughter has now “Magically” decided that she wants to spend more time with her mother. I am loathe to ask the question as to whether or not her mother is pushing her into this, (more time with mum means dad pays more), It’s just not something you involve a child in.

As it turns out (and I’m sure many of you blokes are under a similar situation) married and DeFacto married men in Australia are living beneath a swinging axe that is the whim of their female partners. By this i mean that the law is totally skewed in women’s favor in every category you care to think of. Perhaps more tellingly, at a whim a woman here can cast an accusation of child abuse, sexual abuse, mental abuse etc, and the authorities automatically assume she is telling the truth, without so much as hearing the man’s side of the story. So, ultimately I can end up in prison if she gets a bad bout PMS . which brings me to how I found MGTOW.

The whole situation got me to thinking about how many other men were not just in this situation but what thoughts they had about how to deal with it etc. The internet being the great leveler that it is, I found very little in Australia, not sure if that’s from apathy? We can be very apathetic about men’s issues here as there is still a predominant belief that men can handle ANYTHING they are dealt. Which brought me to YouTube and MGTOW videos. I haven;t taken the red pill yet but it looking better every day.

Happy to go into more details with anyone wishing to get info on the Australian perspective.

Cheers for reading.

The site here is a good group. lotta truth being told, a lotta fun being had. in case you are curious, here a link to my story:

http://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/my-story-2/

Welcome to the forums.

Of course her mother is pushing her into this, but probably not OVERTLY.

Covertly.

The skewed laws in the female favor (even when not warranted) and largely anti-male bias is not limited to your corner of the world. Google shows us there is always a site visitor from there.

My parents were always married but I didn’t understand my father when I was young…. I understood him perfectly later. There were times when my mom tried to get us to side with her and she would expect us to “gang up” on Dad at times. I was hip to it and when she was out of line I supported my father and spoke up. But I was a free-thinker earlier in life than others.

How to deal with it? As long as you always assume any advice you receive online will yield long-term negative outcomes, then I might offer (having such little legal recourse) just to be there when she needs you and to make all interactions FUN. Nothing replaces a fun Dad. My brother manages his daughters very rigidly. They are 10 and 12. And he is not “fun” in his methods. So It’s hardly competition when I visit. They are thrilled.

With them, I am FUN and they laugh and get out of control and we have a great time. He interrupts (like a miserable WIFE would) and tells them to “calm down” and they pout because he’s being a buzzkill….. but we still maintain eye contact… and joke and smile when he’s not looking. Although I see them rarely, they can’t wait to see me every time. I’m the “fun” one. He resents me for this.

Its nice to be missed. I know it’s not the same if she’s your daughter and it must be devastating ….but if it were me, I would TRY to rise above it and know that if she is trying to alienate you it can be used to your advantage. Meaning , women understand force differently than we do. They use manipulation, backstabbing and ostracizing to “win” and get their way. By not being that kind of person, you win by being the kind of person your daughter WANTS to be around more.

As I said, online advice is sure to yield long term negative outcomes but as long as you understand that, if there is something of value here, take it and discard the rest. But perhaps it helps to know that you were heard and understood.

Perhaps some of the archive videos and audios here (very red pills, some of them) will assist in realizing we are not as “powerless” as we think. Many MGTOW are men who TAKE BACK and reclaim some of what they too willingly gave away…. and like Kevin Spacey said in American Beauty, “it’s never too late to get it back”. It may surprise you how many of the terms can be re-written by you and before long , you may feel bullet proof. A slight adjustment in attitude and outlook is often all that’s required.

All the best.. in your quest. Try not to devour too many red pills at once though. They are addictive.

“But perhaps it helps to know that you were heard and understood.”

I’m sure you all know just how important that sentiment is. Some sage words all round there, again thank you.

I was watching a MGTOW video about a bloke who had a vasectomy and realized the value of NOT telling his future partners upfront. (we call these women “Roots” —it means women we only want for a f~~~). The outcome when she tried to trap him into marriage with pregnancy from another bloke was just f~~~ing hilarious, I am so tempted to have a vasectomy just to be able to do that – childish of me perhaps, but once your dignity is stripped from you what is left but to seek joy where you can?

I need an evil emoti

Her first target was an older, successful married doctor with a happy family who seemed to have money, and plenty of reason to want to keep quiet any news about the resulting baby. She successfully got him into an affair and began having sex with him at every opportunity…promising him she was on birth control but obviously not taking it. He seemed to trust her about this and continued having sex with her whenever the opportunity allowed. This regular sex went on for months and months, but no pregnancy resulted. She was young and healthy and knew she was fertile so the problem couldn’t be her. After sex with this guy for about a year, she finally gave up on him…but not on the plan. She decided the problem must be with him and so she broke it off with him to target one of this guy’s colleagues, another successful, married doctor.

She was successful in starting an affair with this guy and began banging his brains out as well. This too went on for many months, but still no pregnancy. To reassure herself, she got herself tested and proved for certain that the problem wasn’t her. After riding this second doctor for about a year, still no pregnancy. She gave up on him as well, but was still committed to the plan.

After doing this with several other married doctors, never getting pregnant, but eventually getting the well deserved reputation for town bicycle, the stigma of becoming well known for what she was among other nurses was starting to have a negative effect. She finally gave up and left town, assuming there must be something int he water, or some kind of radiation leak that had created some kind of defect in all those married men she’d been riding who couldn’t get her pregnant.

She never figured it out, but all those married doctors knew each other and were close friends. They had gone to school together or done residencies together and their relationships went back for years. They saw each other at hospitals and professional society meetings all the time.

They had also all gotten their vasectomies from the same urologist in that same town… 😀

They had seen this girl and her plan for what it was right from the very beginning…warned each other, and had just passed her around among themselves. Other nurses who were not as attractive (and jealous of her looks) knew what she was trying to do, and knew that those guys were all sterile. They never told her, but gossip’d and laughed at her behind her back.

If you haven’t  already, you might want to try MGTOW  Australia on You Tube. There quite a bit on there. Good hunting and don’t let them drag you down.

MG-Tower, I wasn’t trying to correct you mate, I think all these analogies are equally valid.

Got to say you have a particularly good comic way of presenting them too, laughed haughtily on the above – Choice!