I concluded long before I came to MGTOW that marriage wasn’t a good idea for me, based on observation of men in marriages that I know personally and professionally.

Granted we are currently in a situation where record numbers of men are rejecting marriage but I don’t yet think it’s a mainstream movement.  Talk to most guys about rejecting marriage and they look at you like you’re a social malcontent.

This article has some interesting references.

http://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/06/08/changing-state-of-marriage-82047/

Despite all this, it seems to me decent looking women with a vajaynay, aren’t having much trouble finding some sucker to marry them and father kids.

If men are pulling out from relation-s~~~ting there will have to be a reduction in the needs of women’s shelters. There can’t be a murder without a body. That has to benefit tax-payers

They will just find some other place to put the money. Governments never take their foot off your throat, they just reposition it.

It’s not just men that are eschewing marriage.  Women are now earning far more than men partially due to the education gap and due to hypergamy will never marry.

They are perfectly fine with this and are having babies outside of marriage.

This state of affairs was predicted when Ronald Reagan was president and led Hollywood to memorialize this movement with an epic episode of Murphy Brown.

Dan Quayle, Reagan’s vice president was sent on a diplomatic mission to Hollywood in 1992 and failed to quash the Murphy Brown episode thus cementing the current state of affairs with a 40% single mother rate among whites and rising fast with the rate in the black community above 80%.

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Bearing babies irresponsibly is simply wrong. Failing to support children one has fathered is wrong and we must be unequivocal about this. It doesn’t help matters when primetime TV has Murphy Brown, a character who supposedly epitomizes today’s intelligent, highly paid professional woman, mocking the importance of fathers by bearing a child alone and calling it just another lifestyle choice. I know it’s not fashionable to talk about moral values, but we need to do it! Even though our cultural leaders in Hollywood, network TV and the national newspapers routinely jeer at them, I think most of us in this room know that some things are good and other things are wrong. And now, it’s time to make the discussion public. It’s time to talk again about the family, hard work, integrity and personal responsibility. We cannot be embarrassed out of our belief that two parents married to each other are better, in most cases, for children than one. That honest work is better than handouts or crime. That we are our brother’s keepers. That is worth making an effort, even when the rewards aren’t immediate.</span>

http://livefromthetrail.com/about-the-book/speeches/chapter-18/vice-president-dan-quayle

PS: What am I doing wrong with the new blockquote system that is leading to all that ugly html code?

Reagan is one of the worst human beings of the past century. The only other more damaging presidents may be Woodrow Wilson, Richard Nixon and possibly Bill Clinton. Reagan doesn’t get nearly the flak he should get, because people my age that should know better refuse to say anything because of nostalgia or age warfare or some other utter garbage.

Also there is no such thing as educational gap. Women’s studies’ degrees are not education. Women do not get STEM degrees, because those degrees are actually difficult and not actually lucrative. We have an affirmative action gap. Even Intel is preferentially hiring women. Their goal is to have more women employees, women are classified as minorities too and these companies would rather hire a worthless white woman than a skilled minority STEM degree holder, which is laughable but that’s how it is.

Males are getting less education now because they’ve watched several generations of men get indebted and then not get anything for their degrees. The US threw away merit and productivity as a measure of workplace success a long time ago. As such, women under 35 now make more money than men under 35, which does play into hypergamy and everything else. But add to that the fact that there are so many preferential programs for women, and parental assistance, and I have to laugh at the average American male still supporting the gynocracy today.

It’s true, I admit, most men still look at MGTOW or rejecting marriage as a social malcontent. But maybe that is also older men. I don’t really know, seems we have more young gents on here these days though. I like to see that. I’ll probably be dead before any revolution, but I hope if one happens at least the young people discern the obnoxious older generations from men like me that are MGTOW and have been against Cultural Marxism from the very start.